GY TripleTred v. Michelin HydroEdge

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My Michelin Destinys are getting close to needing replacement (about 50K on them).

At the local Discount Tires, I can get the TripleTred and the HydroEdge, (215/60R16, 02 Camry SE) for about the same price. I have heard good reviews of both.

Which one would you go for? I am mostly looking for wet traction, wear, and good fuel economy.
 
I put Michelin HydroEdge on my wife's Mitsu Lancer, which had wet traction problems with the OEM tires which I think were Yokohamas. (They were nail magnets too - think she found a total of five nails in four tires in 30k miles!) That was 45k miles ago and they've been GREAT tires. Good dry traction, good wet traction, and incredible water-shedding ability. The original tires were very prone to hydroplaning so it was night and day when these went on.

They seem to be wearing well too - have 40k on them and probably 40k of tread left. I'd rate them highly in both your criteria.

Only negative thing I can say about them is that they are NOISY. Lots of tread noise with these versus the original Yoko's. The Lancer isn't a quiet car so I don't find it all that annoying. The noise may be annoying in a quiet car like a Camry. Or maybe not - perhaps the additional sound deadening in a Camry will take care of the tread noise?

What's really funny is that before these tires, I was absolutely anti-Michelin, usually buying BFGoodrich and Firestone, with a set of Road Huggers from Discount Tire thrown in (was happy with them until one blew out on a Sunday afternoon in Houston on the I-10 Katy Freeway - yikes!!!). Bought them as no one else had a similar offering at the time and the wife was very unhappy with the wet performance of the Yoko's.

I'll buy another set of these for the Lancer when they're worn out.

later,
b
 
I have the Hydroedge on my Saturn, and I find the tire to be a bit on the noisy side. Wet traction is pretty good though.

Despite the high treadwear warranty, treadwear isn't significantly better than less expensive tires. Even with the pressure set at 40 psi, I have 8/32 left after 11k, which is about the same as my last set.

Have you considered the Yokohama AVID V4 or the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S? The latter has received extremely good reviews from the customers at Tire Rack. Regardless of which tire you buy, print out the price from Tire Rack and take it to Discount Tire. They will match the price.
 
I have had great luck with the GY Tripletreds! Buy with confidence. Great wet traction and snow traction but you wont have to worry about that in texas much.
 
kd5byb, BFG is owned by michelin.

i went with the Assurance Triple Treads on my mom's grand marquis because they were available in an H speed rating in her size, 225/60/16. they have been on for a year and i think they are still at 8/32s.
 
The Critic, A Pilot Exalto is a high performance all season tire, he is looking for a regular passenger car tire.

Johnny, to be honest we sell both, and typically push the goodyears a little harder. With our pricing the [censored]-trips as we call them for short are usually cheaper, and goodyear usually has some sort of deal where you buy 4 and get 40$ back. Both have excellent tread wear, and Michelin's training claims the hydroedge's last longer, but I call [censored], they are showing to last about the same.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=AS

As you can see, both tires are rated [censored] near identical and any discrepancy of .1 or so is irrelevant when you really think about it, its an internet survey. I usually lean towards goodyear
 
Originally Posted By: kartracer55
The Critic, A Pilot Exalto is a high performance all season tire, he is looking for a regular passenger car tire.

Johnny, to be honest we sell both, and typically push the goodyears a little harder. With our pricing the [censored]-trips as we call them for short are usually cheaper, and goodyear usually has some sort of deal where you buy 4 and get 40$ back. Both have excellent tread wear, and Michelin's training claims the hydroedge's last longer, but I call [censored], they are showing to last about the same.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=AS

As you can see, both tires are rated [censored] near identical and any discrepancy of .1 or so is irrelevant when you really think about it, its an internet survey. I usually lean towards goodyear

True, but I think he'll be equally happy with the Exaltos. He'll probably experience better performance with only a very slight trade-off in treadwear.
 
in the end all, shop by price. they are both top notch tires which for all intents and purposes are identical in most every way.

I do agree with the Critic to look at some other high quality tires that might be excellent substitutes. Again, shop by price and concensus - the tire rack is an extremely valuable tool for this.

JMH
 
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
kd5byb, BFG is owned by michelin.


I know - I should have said I was a big fan of BFG before the 1988 sale of Michelin. But even after 1988, it seems that the BF Goodrich branded tires were more appealing to me than the Michelins. As an example, my tire of choice for my GT 'stang in '03 were BFG g-force t/a KDWS tires and I don't recall even thinking about Michelin tires.

I seem to recall that Michelin branded tires until the mid to late '90s were sensible car tires, while BFG made high performance sports car and truck tires. After that, it seems that Michelin started making more Michelin-branded performance tires and all bets were off.

But, then again, this is all my opinion and recollection - plus I've had a glass of red wine after a really [censored] day at work. (dealt with pinheads all day)

Some day, I'll tell my tale of woe with a set of Bridgestone Dueller a/t's on my Ranger. What a disappointment they were!

ltr,
b
 
Originally Posted By: The Critic
True, but I think he'll be equally happy with the Exaltos. He'll probably experience better performance with only a very slight trade-off in treadwear.


Johnny Z also listed "good fuel economy" as an important consideration. My experience with performance all season tires like you are suggesting is that fuel economy usually suffers. I've typically bought performance all season tires for my cars over the years and my fuel economy always went down compared to the OE or standard all season tires that came with the car. They do offer better all around performance and I prefer to drive on that type of tire but with the price of gas today I'm tempted to switch back to something with a little lower rolling resistance next time around for my daily driver.

For my wagon I actually did skip the performance all season this time and went with a 245/60R17 Michelin Energy LX4 and have been really happy with them so far. My GP has Bridgestone Potenza RE950's but they have gotten noisey over time. My experience with directional tires is that Goodyears stay quieter over time and others that I've tried get noisy pretty soon due to wear issues. I've had 2 types of Bridgestones and 1 Yokohama and they all got noisey eventually. I've had 3-4 different models of Goodyears that were directional tires and they all stayed fairly quiet. I've never owned either of these 2 tires however. Consumer Reports rated the GY Triple Treads much higher than the Michelin HydroEdge if that is worth anything. The Michelin X Radial was rated a close 2nd to the GY Triple Treads however. It is available at Sam's Clubs and maybe Costco's but not at other tire stores.

Michelin's typically have lower rolling resistance and therefore provide better fuel economy which is why I bought the LX4's.
 
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Originally Posted By: WishIhadatruck
Originally Posted By: The Critic
True, but I think he'll be equally happy with the Exaltos. He'll probably experience better performance with only a very slight trade-off in treadwear.


Johnny Z also listed "good fuel economy" as an important consideration. My experience with performance all season tires like you are suggesting is that fuel economy usually suffers. I've typically bought performance all season tires for my cars over the years and my fuel economy always went down compared to the OE or standard all season tires that came with the car. They do offer better all around performance and I prefer to drive on that type of tire but with the price of gas today I'm tempted to switch back to something with a little lower rolling resistance next time around for my daily driver.

I heard that the weight of the tire can play a huge role in fuel economy.

Fwiw:

Goodyear Tripletread: 27 lbs
Michelin Hydroedge: 24 lbs
Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S: 21 lbs

The Exalto is the lightest.
 
I plan on putting the TT's on our Subaru in a few months when it is due for new rubber. We'll see how well they handle Chicago winters.
 
The Critic is right, the TripleTred is a very heavy tire. Now the Fortera TripleTreds? Forget it. I would still be cautious of putting on an exalto A/S. Now even though the tread wear ratings are not a 100% accurate gauge of tread wear, especially when crossing in between brands, the tripletreds still have a significantly higher rating to them than the Pilot exalto's do.

I think ultimately it would come down to what he values more. Tripletreds will last longer, however the Exalto A/S will have better wet traction. Since Snow traction isnt a concern (didnt realize OP was in texas) the Pilot Exalto A/S would not be a BAD choice, but maybe not the right choice for him. After all, tires sales are a game of matching the customers to the tires ya know?

Jim
 
Hey folks,

Thanks for the input. Right now my heart is set on the HydroEdge, base on the weight info from the Critic.

I am shying away from the Exalto, due to the wear rating. Looks like, I am going to get 60K out of the Destinys, which are 80K rated. I really do not think I would get more than 35K out of the Exaltos. One thing about quick wearing tires, is that I would spend more time in the final 10% of their life, whereas with the long lasting ones, I can justify to myself, to throw away the worst performing 10% and get them replaced.

Looks like Michelin is pitching the HydroEdge as "The Most Fuel-Efficient Tire in the Category". Combine with the high wear rating, is music to my ears. I do 20+K a year, 40% on two lane country roads, and 60% on interstates.

http://www.michelinman.com/tires/passenger-car-minivan/hydroedge/
 
I have HydroEdge on my Chrysler mini-van and TripleTread's on my PT Cruiser. The HydroEdge might tend to ride a bit harder and generate a hair more noise but do seem to last a bit longer. Perhaps 70,000 miles on the HydroEdge and 60,000 on the TripleTread. Both offer superb all season traction and decent handling. You can't go wrong with either tire.
 
I looked at the Tripletreads and Hydroedge wne buying some all season tires for a Taurus, and ended up with the Michelin Harmonys. The Hydroedge looked like it'd do well in rain but it nor the Tripletread had much in the way of shoulder lugs, which are a traditional way to get decent mud & snow traction. The Harmony seemed to have more siping which is also a traditional way to get rain and packed/snow ice traction. I wondered about the Tripletread relying upon fancier tread compounds for it's all season traction, and whether all of the tread was a special coumpound or just some like some of the Brdigestones.

After thinking out loud and selecting the Harmonys the tire dealer said that he had the same concerns, and had also ended up buying the Harmonys. He also said that the HydroEdges were noiser than the Harmonys.
 
I have Michelin Exalto AS tires on my 2004 Honda Accord. They have about 49k miles on them with 5-6/32 treadware all around. They have been the best tires I have owned. Excellent handling in wet, and dry. Decent comfort with regards to ride, and they are quiet on the highway. Excellent stability at higher speeds, and braking on the car improved compared with energy tires. I did lose about 1-2 mpg in gas economy though, and keep them at 34-35 psi for best fuel economy with them.
 
I put Michelin Primacy tires on wife's car. The handling is not quite as crisp as the exalto's, but would venture they handle better than hydroedge, and triple tread. Her gas mileage has improves with them compared to exaltos, but not to the same level as the energy tires. Would be a good match with SE Camry
 
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