Grand Caravan buying

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Well my wife has finally decided she does in fact want a minivan instead of a Grand Cherokee. We are looking at Grand Caravan's, partly because I have an unhealthy Mopar obsession (this will be #4 since 2014), and partly because you can get a 2-3 year old nicely to fully loaded one relatively cheap. Any major problems with these or will it hopefully be like my parents 2004 Grand Caravan and refuse to die?
 
The '04 - '07 models were really a force to be reckoned with..... 200,000 miles is pretty easily done.

I think '08 -'11 (or '12?) are the ones to avoid?
 
Originally Posted by Linctex
The '04 - '07 models were really a force to be reckoned with..... 200,000 miles is pretty easily done.

I think '08 -'11 (or '12?) are the ones to avoid?


They've got almost 190k on it... 1 tune up in its life, otherwise it's been a steady diet of just routine oil changes and a single trans flush at 100k. Still rocking the original fuel pump! The sheer abuse that poor thing has taken... it's seen more work than some pick up trucks.

Wife said 2015 or newer, so that puts us outside that range thankfully
 
I'm in the same boat... or will be here soon. Taking a look around.
Buying a used mini van scares me as I know how hard they are used.
We went through a few when I was a kid.
 
My brother has a 2007 with the 3.3 that has over 400,000 miles. Can't remember the mileage when he installed a low mileage junkyard trans. Has seen a steady diet of Super Tech 5w30 conventional since he bought it with around 10,000 miles on it.

He racked up lots of miles especially early on because he was a property inspector for an outfit that bought up bank lots of houses. He covered the eastern half of the US.

The van just does fishing and hunting duty now. He bought a new Corolla.
 
I drove many of these for the county.
We had quite a few with bad head gasket's.

On a cool day they can seem to run fine without any water at all... Until the weather turns hot at a red light with the air on.

On the way out one day I was told to switch vans. I did and it was fine for two days until it got 100° and at a red light it started to go towards the red. I pulled in an auto parts store and filled with anti-freeze. I assumed that the radiator was just neglected. Weather got cold, and it was fine. And a few days later a repeat performance.

It occurred to me it would be easy to sell. Change the oil show on a cool day....
 
There are some known repeatable issues with 2012-present 3.6L pentastar engines. Nothing major but worth considering. Oil coolers having their seals leak means removal of the intake to repair and oil pressure sender switch that only lights the idiot light as a function and sometimes requires the removal of the intake to replace. Rear air conditioning lines leaking where the go into the rear evaporator. There are a few others, you tube is your best resource. All in all these vans are pretty good. Maybe not issue free but we're not talking transmission failures or head gaskets from earlier eras. I like mine a lot! (2014)
 
Originally Posted by Skippy722
Well my wife has finally decided she does in fact want a minivan instead of a Grand Cherokee. We are looking at Grand Caravan's, partly because I have an unhealthy Mopar obsession (this will be #4 since 2014), and partly because you can get a 2-3 year old nicely to fully loaded one relatively cheap. Any major problems with these or will it hopefully be like my parents 2004 Grand Caravan and refuse to die?


Go for a 2014 and up. They will have the HD Brakes. Issues with 2011 to 2013 were cracked oil filter housings. I think some people over-tighten the oil filter housing and crack it causing leaks.

They can go for a long time. Just make sure when the Transmission fluid is changed that ATF+4 is used.
 
When I was looking I was told:
-buy new and get the lifetime warranty
-or at least buy with less than 40k on the clock (?) so as to get the lifetime warranty
-and then don't expect Toyota level of quality

That didn't exactly make me feel all warm and fuzzy...
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Good luck. I drove a couple and they were nice, only thing I really disliked was the extreme difference in pedal height between gas and brake--had to lift my leg off the floor to hit the brake. If nothing else, high sales numbers means parts and expertise will be around for years to come (maybe not resale value, but it should be well supported).
 
They had some head issues early in the PentaStar with roller rockers and valve seats but they redesigned the head and oil pump thereafter and they have been excellent. I'm running mine on a 30wt oil because it seems to like this better than the 5w20 it's spec'ed for in terms of noise. My father in-law has a year younger than mine and runs the 5w20. Both have been great so far.

My dad's 2012 with the affected head is still going strong with over 300K KM on it though so I think the head issues / roller rockers was just a limited batch really but they redesigned the head anyway.

Transmissions are ok, keep them out of the ECO mode for better shifting and longevity. (There's a button on the center stack for this). These transmissions got an update in 2014 to one of the teflon rings to stop it from wearing and then bleeding oil pressure so the transmissions don't loose line pressure as time goes on which can cause slipping. That said my dad's hasn't had any issue so far and it's the older design.

Change the transmission fluid every 30-50K miles depending on how it's operated (Buy a dipstick or make one of your own and use a scan tool for fluid temperature) Look up 62TE transmission fluid temperature chart to see what level it should be at for what temperature. (The oil fill tube is hard to see unless looking on an angle on the right side just in front of the battery (left of the battery) under a wiring junction.)

Any questions let me know. Super happy with the ones we have in the family.
 
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I have the 2017 Chrysler Pacifica. Engine is good, brakes are good, 9 speed transmission is not ready for prime time. Lots of time at the dealer getting reprogrammed with the latest software. I wish I went with the Grand Caravan that had the 3.6L engine and 6 speed transmission. That transmission seems more mature and "refined".
 
Ah yes... the imfamous ticking noise from early pentastars. Easy fix with a new roller arm. Not sure when or if they corrected this issue with the rollers but most of those problems happened after the drive train warranty ended iirc.
 
These are very good minivans, despite the reviews and the reliability of them is on par with Japanese. They have their quirks and things to watch out for, just like any other vehicle. One thing that is affected early on in the rust belt is the rear AC. There is an expansion valve right behind the rear passenger wheel that is exposed to water, salt and debris spray from the tire. They can develop a leak as yearly as 3 years, so watch out for wetness and rust around that area. I believe it's about a $1k job at a mechanic. If it's fine, make sure to spray the valve with fluid film or the like at least before every winter. I would do it more often though.

Another one is the rear shocks develop an low speed clunking sound quite easily. I guess the suspension geometry has something to do with it. I fully loaded mine few times where the rear dropped almost to the bump stops including our 2.5k mile trip to CA and now I hear them and the van is just at 30k miles. The good news these are very cheap and easy to change.


Also, If you want a better/quieter ride quality, look at SXT, R/T or Town & Country models, as they have more insulation and better tuned suspension. The more basic models have a rougher and louder ride.

Also,also, coming from personal experience, if you plan to have children in both second and third raw seat, I suggest you get a two screen entertainment system. These can play different movies/games and at least in my case, are extremely helpful, because I don't like my children using tablets for long periods of time.
 
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Those Chrysler minivans are known for their awful transmissions
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Get a Sienna instead. They even offered a 4-cylinder for a couple years which will give you better mpg and be easier to work on. Another good choice is the Transit Connect.
 
Two things: Don't buy one that was a rental vehicle and expect the transmission to be problem free. Second, change the transmission fluid as recommended.
 
I have a 2013 Grand Caravan with 173k miles. Its first 53k were as a rental. The transmission went out at 167k, and I was pretty anal about changing fluid and filters. I went in figuring it was $10k less than a similar Odyssey or Sienna, and knowing it would break more, and decided to do it anyway. Honestly, it has been a bit more reliable than I expected, but it has had things go wrong, as I expected.
 
I highly recommend that you focus on a Town & Country Limited. Loaded with safety features not even offered in the Grand Caravan.

Things like amber rear turn signals, mirror mounted amber turn lights, side impact sensors, etc.

Mine, a 2015, was an Avis Florida rental so it lacks heated seats and a heated steering wheel. Look out for that if you live in the cold part of the world. It had about 20,000 when purchased and now has about 70,000 miles and has been trouble free, even the transmission (first Town & Country I can say that about).
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Originally Posted by billpace1956
Get a sienna! Mine has over 300,000 miles and is a 2008. One repair in all that time!


Originally Posted by slacktide_bitog
Those Chrysler minivans are known for their awful transmissions
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Get a Sienna instead. They even offered a 4-cylinder for a couple years which will give you better mpg and be easier to work on. Another good choice is the Transit Connect.



No and no. For 23k for a 2 year old used Sienna I'll buy a brand new GC. Plus they're hideously ugly. I'm not convinced that Toyota's "legendary reliability" is all that, or worth the mark up. Like I said before, my parents 2004 Grand Caravan has been used harder than most pick up trucks and still keeps on going, no repairs were ever needed outside routine normal (usually deferred at that) maintenance stuff.

Thanks for the info though! Carmax has one that was a lease with 20k on it, but 20k is kinda steep IMO.
 
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Originally Posted by billpace1956
Get a sienna! Mine has over 300,000 miles and is a 2008. One repair in all that time!

Except the new ones have the terrible 8-speed transmission I had in my Highlander which is awful.
 
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