Going 10,000 miles

[Yah-Tah-Hey]

Originally Posted By: ragtoplvr
Back in the days on group 2 oils being the best you could get, large amounts of lead in the fuel(late 60's) and such, the severe change interval was 3000 miles and the oil was pretty used up by then. Before then, some vehicles did not have oil filters and 2000 miles was common. In fact, there was a Rambler ad that promoted no oil filter as a needless expense. (Rambler owners were frugal)

To increase profits, the quick lube places still use that interval.Kendal, the 2000 mile oil

Rod


Rod

 

[ram_man]

Think maxlife blend could go to 10,000?

 

[Jcp123]

Originally Posted By: jbarnes84
Hello everyone. I'm new to these forums but have already learned a great deal from the posts here. I'll give a brief introduction about myself, and I figured I would ask my question here since it ties in with the 10k oil change topic.

Anyways, I live in Tennessee. So kind of middle of the road in terms of weather. I'm 30 years of age, but have very little knowledge about cars. I recently purchased a 2010 Kia Sportage 4 cylinder with 65000 miles on it. According to the carfax report, the previous owner was diligent with oil changes, usually getting them at the dealership where the car was purchased.

Anyways, this is my daily driver. I don't drive it hard. Maybe a 1000 miles a month with a mix of city/highway driving. The recommended oil change interval is 7500 miles. I've put about 4000 miles on the car since I purchased so it isn't due a change yet but I kind of want to get a fresh start with it. I'm going to go ahead and do a oil change and I think I have settled on Pennzoil Ultra Platinum with a Fram Ultra Synthetic filter. I was just wondering if anyone here has any experience running this setup in a car similar to mine? I'm also wondering if with this setup a 10000 mile oci is realistic? Thanks for the help everyone.


Been doing some research since I'm getting cases of Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for $1/qt. actually with my employee it's $0.80/qt

anyhow, this stuff appears to be the real deal: a thoroughly excellent oil.

 

[HTSS_TR]

Originally Posted By: jbarnes84
Anyways, this is my daily driver. I don't drive it hard. Maybe a 1000 miles a month with a mix of city/highway driving. The recommended oil change interval is 7500 miles. I've put about 4000 miles on the car since I purchased so it isn't due a change yet but I kind of want to get a fresh start with it. I'm going to go ahead and do a oil change and I think I have settled on Pennzoil Ultra Platinum with a Fram Ultra Synthetic filter. I was just wondering if anyone here has any experience running this setup in a car similar to mine? I'm also wondering if with this setup a 10000 mile oci is realistic? Thanks for the help everyone.

You can do up to 15k miles or 1 year OCI with these combo.

 

[jk_636]

Originally Posted By: ram_man
I keep telling my self 10,000mile oil changes is worth it. But then that side of me that thinks going that long is crazy comes out. Ford says you can go up to 10,000 on regular conventional oil. Do you guys think that's truly a good idea?
Most our customers go 5000 and at that interval engines are very clean. But double the miles nobody does it hardly so I do not get to observe that trend. I would run a synthetic for 10,000 or once a year if it's safe and my engine will stay very clean in doing so. I'm not necessarily looking to get every last ounce of use out of the oil but I'd like to be able to go that far and be well within the safe range of doing so. Seems like around here synthetic is between 5 and 10 dollars more than conventional. So the difference in price isn't all that drastic. What do you guys think? Is the 2.0di pretty easy on oil like the mpfi. 2.0 was? All thoughts and opinions are appreciated.


There is NO WAY in h-e double hockey sticks I would run a conventional for 10k miles. I dont even run full bore synthetics for that long. Im still a believer in the 3k conventional and 5-7k synthetics.

 

[Oil Changer]

Kids believe in the Tooth Fairy but it doesn't make them right. It's human nature to fear what they do not know. Because you're afraid to run a conventional for 10k and because you believe in 3k oil changes does not make you right.

It's ignorance. You ignore the facts that are laid out before you on this forum and do what you believe is right. You're just throwing your money away. It's stupid. Especially on a depreciating object.

Originally Posted By: jk_636
There is NO WAY in h-e double hockey sticks I would run a conventional for 10k miles. I dont even run full bore synthetics for that long. Im still a believer in the 3k conventional and 5-7k synthetics.

 

[jk_636]

In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king. Never light three on a match. Two in the hand is worth three in the bush..or something. I never get that one right. Any more anecdotes that mean nothing to this conversation?

I ran conventional 5k miles. Once. Bad UOA. Ever since then, back to the basics.

Oh and last I checked, its my money, and it shall be spent how I see fit. Im afraid the only thing depreciating around here is the quality of some of the commentators on this website.

 

[WobblyElvis]

There is nothing like a UOA to build confidence in an extend OCI. Simply send in a sample at 6,000 miles or whatever and go from there.

 

[GMFan]

Originally Posted By: WobblyElvis
There is nothing like a UOA to build confidence in an extend OCI. Simply send in a sample at 6,000 miles or whatever and go from there.


This. I had a UOA done with TBN after 7k miles on cheap synthetic and the oil was in good shape. I am doing 10k OCI now that I'm out of warranty. For those who are wary just get a UOA when you "think" the oil is used up.

 

[Oil Changer]

What was bad? Let's see it.

Originally Posted By: jk_636
I ran conventional 5k miles. Once. Bad UOA. Ever since then, back to the basics.

 

[kschachn]

Something tells me you will be waiting a while.

Originally Posted By: Oil Changer
What was bad? Let's see it.

Originally Posted By: jk_636
I ran conventional 5k miles. Once. Bad UOA. Ever since then, back to the basics.

 

[aa1986]

Originally Posted By: Oil Changer
What was bad? Let's see it.

Originally Posted By: jk_636
I ran conventional 5k miles. Once. Bad UOA. Ever since then, back to the basics.


He has shared this with us before where he seems to be saying it isn't bad:

Originally Posted By: jk_636
The copper (which wasnt that high) is just the byproduct of aging motor, operating in city conditions. Has nothing to do with MMO. What is my fault is running conventional for 5k miles in that magnum engine.

 

[aa1986]

And here is the link to his 5k mile UOA:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3630565/Mobil_5000_5w30_5,585_miles_UO

 

[kschachn]

Yeah the famous MMO dispute thread.

Originally Posted By: aa1986
And here is the link to his 5k mile UOA:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3630565/Mobil_5000_5w30_5,585_miles_UO

 

[BHopkins]

Originally Posted By: aa1986
And here is the link to his 5k mile UOA:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3630565/Mobil_5000_5w30_5,585_miles_UO


This is very enlightening. So, you didn't get a less than great UOA from running conventional for 5,500 miles. You got a poor UOA from running 5,500 miles with 20% Marvel Mystery Oil in the crankcase. A product that, judging from information on the product's website, is not certified to a single motor oil specification. No test results showing reduced wear, or cleaner engines. No lab analysis. The only offering is a bunch of anecdotal stories, none of which appear to offer any scientifically conducted tests that show an engine does better with MMO.

 

[camrydriver111]

lol It's the MMO guy.

 

[Oil Changer]

Ah. I read that MMO thread. At least he's being true to form.

jk_636, you're a fanboy of that gimmicky RP stuff. You peck away on the keyboard telling everyone how great it is but you don't trust it past a 3k OCI? How is that? Doesn't say much for RP does it?

 

[jk_636]

Im the MMO guy. Hilarious. Apparently Im the only MMO fan here eh?

Perhaps Im also the Royal Purple guy, Purolator guy, BG guy, etc.

As for the UOA, the same formulation (80/20 PCMO-MMO) ran just fine @ 3k miles for the past 80k miles of the vehicle. Than had highetened copper levels and lowered visocity @ 5k miles.
Wasn't that bad, but was a change I didnt prefer. I have sinced changed to Mobil 1 (got a bunch on sale at $1/quart) and wont be using MMO for a while since it wont do much good in Mobil 1, and the M1 will be changed at 5k.

As for the RP, I change it as 7k even though RP and the UOA indicate it could go up to 12-15. I do this because it is primarily city driving, in a hot and sandy environment, so I service it under "severe" service conditions.

Originally Posted By: kschachn
Something tells me you will be waiting a while.

Originally Posted By: Oil Changer
What was bad? Let's see it.

Originally Posted By: jk_636
I ran conventional 5k miles. Once. Bad UOA. Ever since then, back to the basics.


Why would you be waiting a while? Im still here, no worries...

 

[Oil Changer]

Once again, nonsensical. UOA tells you that you can go 12-15k but you change at 7k because you consider your diving habits severe. Where's the logic? Apparently your driving isn't as severe as you think.

I towed a boat through the desert from Lake Mojave to Riverside California in the summer using MC 5W-20 at 10k OCI. Engine was fine. And you want to talk about hot and sandy? Pppfffttt...

Originally Posted By: jk_636
As for the RP, I change it as 7k even though RP and the UOA indicate it could go up to 12-15. I do this because it is primarily city driving, in a hot and sandy environment, so I service it under "severe" service conditions.

 

[jk_636]

Your from michigan right? What in the heck does a snow bird know about sandy, humid, salty environments? PPPppfft...

Its not your vehicle and not your money mack. I change it under the severe schedule and it runs like a swiss watch. Dont fix what isn't broken.