Furnace Went Out - Which New One??

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Furnace blower motor went out, then found a slightly cracked heat exchanger, so we need a new Furnace.

The reputable place here carries Amana as they have the longest warranties.

- What do you think about the newer 95% efficient Amana's?

- Is there a better brand for the money??

- Can I negotiate with the installer for a better deal?

Thanks!!
 
Check out the following web site.

You can get a federal tax credit of up to $1,500.00 if the new unit meets energy star qualifications.

Link To Energy Star Info

There could well be some state credits too.

Make sure the new unit qualifies.

If you will not use up the the credit, consider replacing windows, etc., with some energy star stuff.
 
Yep - thanks - I do know about that though...
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Originally Posted By: tpitcher
Furnace blower motor went out, then found a slightly cracked heat exchanger, so we need a new Furnace.

The reputable place here carries Amana as they have the longest warranties.

- What do you think about the newer 95% efficient Amana's?

- Is there a better brand for the money??

- Can I negotiate with the installer for a better deal?

Thanks!!



How old is the old furnace? High efficiency? What is the cost to replace blower motor and heat exchanger?
 
14 years old. Blower motor is $400.

Heat exchanger is several hunderd. Not replacing it means most likely CO this Winter...

The thing is construction grade junk and is only 75% efficient.
 
The Amana Furnace is made by the Goodman Manufacturing company.

When Amana went bankrupt, Goodman bought their furnace manufacturing plant. We install a lot of the Goodman branded furnaces and air conditioners, including installing one in my 85 year old uncles house. It works well for him and our other customers, in the five or so years we have handled the new model furnace I believe we have had two units that had troubles after installation, and those were minor.

The draw back with the brand, imho, is there is no dealer network, you show up with cash at the supply house and suddenly your a heating contractor.

With the major brand equipment, Lennox, Carrier, Bryant, Trane, we have to prove we are a sound company both from a money stand point and a bbb stand point as well.

We have to take manditory training before handling new models, which helps us install the products correctly right out of the box, rather than having call backs.

Get two or three estimates, ask to talk to customers that have used their products, check em out with the BBB, and then go with your gut.

I personally like the 95% two or three stage variable speed drive furnaces, 80% of the time the furnace will run on low fire and low fan speed, meaning for the most part you might never know the furnace is even on!

If you have a two story house, running the fan 24 hours a day, will help even out the temps between the floors and will cost you much less than running your current fan motor year around.

If i can help let me know, this is my 33 year of doing this for a living.
 
When a furnace quits, in the middle of a Minnesota winter, I'd be really concerned about rapid service and parts availability.

If you think that the Amana installer can provide both, then go with them...

My folks had an Amana furnace installed several years ago. They've had to call back the installer once, and the repair was covered under warranty.

However, there was some backlash over the repair being covered, as they haven't had the furnace inspected yearly.

You might want to verify if an annual inspection is required for warranty coverage through Amana. This may be an Amana thing, or it could be a money maker for the company that installed it.
 
We had a Lennox in our old house and it was 30 years old and still in excellent condition when we sold the house. The house my folks have has a Carrier Weathermaker and it's 12 years old and fine, and my partners parents house has a 15 year old Carrier and its fine as well.

My parents have a Goodman A/C compressor at this house and had a Lennox at the old house. My partner just replaced his A/C compressor which was a carrier and 10 years old.

Hope that helps you....

Steve
 
duaneb9729.

Years ago my installer said that some brands rely on generic, easily available, reasonably priced parts while other brands had their own, exclusive OEM parts that were only available thru an authorized facility and were over priced.

Could you elaborate?
 
Lennox or Trane. Everything else is lower tier IMO (though Carrier and York are a cut above junk like Rheem/Ruud and Goodman/Janitrol). That said, you may hear horror stores about the Lennox pulse-combustion furnaces from a few years back. They were SUPER efficient, but overly complicated and prone to failure. Their conventional furnaces are excellent.
 
Key is the contractor for the most part. A bad one can screw up a good unit pretty quickly!

My family has had good service from Carrier units. I have an 15 year old Carrier setup in my home that is reliable (one service call in 5+ years - controller board went bad), and my folks just updgraded two years ago to a Carrier in their home and so far so good. I believe they used a dealer out of Apple Valley - thats as far as I'll go - and they seem satisfied.

Familywise the in-laws had an Amana that went south on them after only 5 or 6 years that was cheaper to replace than repair anymore. I'll note that was not in MN though - out in Colorado. It was not used the the way I run my equipment either.
 
Originally Posted By: doitmyself
duaneb9729.

Years ago my installer said that some brands rely on generic, easily available, reasonably priced parts while other brands had their own, exclusive OEM parts that were only available thru an authorized facility and were over priced.

Could you elaborate?



Many of the furnace manufactures use a main control board that can only be bought though the the local brands distributor. That part and the draft inducer motors can be hard to get though a second source. Esp the newer the piece of equipment.

The good news is, most all other parts are generic, the limit controls, the gas valves, the hot surface ignition, the blower motor, the pressure switches

So in most instances we can go out to our trucks and make something work to get folks heat again.

The variable speed furnace control modules are VERY expensive and are typically OEM only, but the up side to those parts normally they are covered by ten year warranties.

I dont see any real run away problems with the major brand names, even the lennox pulse furnace wasnt a bad furnace, but it had to maintained, and if it was serviced by some one who wasnt trained to work on it, well that model had a steep learning curve, but once you were trained on the model it was amazingly simple how it operated.
 
I really like my Carrier Infinity...2 stage with the variable speed blower. Our gas usage went down 30-35% and the house is more confortable. The savings is also after we added 650 square feet of living space. I did a ton of research before I bought the new system and the consensus is the installer means more than the equipment. I ended up with the Carrier because I liked the dealer the best and am very happy. They weren't the cheapest but they take real pride in their work.
 
Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Lennox or Trane. Everything else is lower tier IMO (though Carrier and York are a cut above junk like Rheem/Ruud and Goodman/Janitrol). That said, you may hear horror stores about the Lennox pulse-combustion furnaces from a few years back. They were SUPER efficient, but overly complicated and prone to failure. Their conventional furnaces are excellent.

No wonder Rheem/Ruud are so popular with builders!

Ours is a Rheem, but it isn't a furnace per se. It is a heat pump. When the blower motor failed last winter the price was nearly double what it would have been if it weren't a proprietary cage mount. (That's my wording from what I can remember of the local service biz explanation.)
 
I'm interested in hearing Duane's opinion on Rheem/Ruud. I spectated on the HVAC newsgroup years ago and they were very well respected at that time, especially from a "bang for the buck" standpoint.
 
Locally, the popular choice for spec houses is "Aire Flow" and "Goodman".

Now I know who is selling the low $$$ systems, and who to stay away from.

When Dad and I build spec houses, we always put in Trane systems.
 
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