Fram Ultra ripping us off?

[haggler]

I very interested to see a new XG go 20k+. And then cut open…

Considering the tough guard on here was ran to like 30k and looked fine, I think it'll be ok.

 

[bullwinkle]

I'd use that filter without one bit of concern. As a matter of fact, Mercedes recommends a Mann "FELT" filter for their engines.

The Ultra is not a fleece filter, not even when it was wire backed!

 

[bullwinkle]

Cut open an XG10575 today. 2 layers, a very thin, soft, almost like felt-like cellulose or maybe even cotton outer layer with a paper back layer. No 2-layer fiberglass. No wire backing.
I'm running an XG2 right now, and feel the need to cut one of those open to make sure.
I feel betrayed here. This is a conventional media.

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It’s a THIN layer of synthetic, a tiny fraction of the synthetic media they used to have, sprayed on the same blend media used in the much cheaper PH & TG filters. My personal opinion is it’s a ripoff, but the “Fram-atics” have been coming out of the woodwork to defend this cheapo new design, I think they finally figured out a way to make “synthetic” media as weak as their paper thin filter cans!

 

[Blagoje]

I’m curious as to how you were able to determine that the media is conventional and not synthetic?

Seriously?!?

We ALL know that that is really cardboard

 

[kschachn]

Seriously?!?

We ALL know that that is really cardboard

In terms of the end caps I'd rather have a fiber one or none at all, at least they don't separate from the media.

And I'm not blinded by a brand either.

 

[Job]

The media looks entirely new, never saw any pictured here like it. Since Fram determined it filters better than the old Ultra, what’s the beef?

 

[Suzuki-2000]

Fram boys get no coil spring

 

[IndyFan]

Until someone posts data showing worse filtration than before, this is much ado about nothing.

 

[wdn]

The media looks entirely new, never saw any pictured here like it.

… looks like the wafer portion of a Nutty Buddy with a piece of Charmin bathroom tissue glued to one side of it.


Church of Fram: The parrot’s not dead, he’s just resting.

 

[Averroes]

Fram hast returned my email I sent haha, have this on my Z currently (6607). When I change the oil for winter storage I’ll try to cut it open, it’ll be a first time for me.

 

[KneeGrinder]

You could go back to the old toilet paper roll conversion oil filter, Oh, my bad, toilet paper is out of stock! Guess your stuck with whatever filter you can find at the moment.

 

[Blagoje]

I think what REALLY happened here is that people complained about Fram having cardboard endcaps so Fram gave us metal endcaps but due to their addiction to cardboard they ended up giving us metal endcaps with cardboard filter media instead. I won't be surprised when we start seeing cockroaches crawling out of Fram Ultras in the future.

 

[Sayjac]

I keep it simple, if you feel "ripped off", follow your screen/display name. Speak with your wallet.

 

[Sayjac]

double post.

 

[Averroes]

No. I think Fram isn’t ripping us off, It’s Amsoil.
$325.80 for a filter? Must be one of those “lifetime” things dealerships talk about.

 

[BornSlippy]

No. I think Fram isn’t ripping us off, It’s Amsoil.
$325.80 for a filter? Must be one of those “lifetime” things dealerships talk about.
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That's for a case of 12 of them.

 

[dnewton3]

Folks - this has gone far enough.
Let's not name call and make product accusations which can't be backed up.