Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: peterdes
Because if bleach/shampoo do well on the Same test Amsoil boasts about, then what does that say about the oil?
Nothing whatsoever.
I'm sure Hitler could spell just as well as Gandhi. Does that say anything about Gandhi?
Quit being so thickheaded. You amsoil guys get all riled up for nothing.
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: peterdes
It is a test for gear oil.
Not necessarily.
Mobil 1 begs to differ.
Quote:
The 4-ball wear test is a test designed to evaluate the performance of a gear oil.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Car_Care/AskMobil/Response_Amsoil_Claims.aspx
Originally Posted By: burning1
This is a variation on the
Guilt By Association
argument.
Bleach passes the 4 ball test. Bleach is a bad lubricant. Therefore the 4 ball test is a bad test.
Both carb cleaner and soap do a good job of cleaning oil. I would not want to shower using carb cleaner. Therefore, the ability to clean (skin) oil is not a valid consideration when choosing a soap.
Mind you, this post does not justify the 4-ball test, it merely attempts to invalidate a bad argument against the test. I'd like to see something more substantial than hearsay regarding this test. I'm inclined to trust Mobile 1 when they say that the 4-ball test is not a critical measurement of oil's ability to protect an engine, but I'd point out that the test wasn't a primary consideration when I chose my oil.
First of all. I never stated bleach/shampoo Passes the test. I said "If."
Second, your analogies are wrong.
If bleach passes the 4 ball wear test, and amsoil passes the 4 ball wear test, and If Bleach is a bad lubricate. Then there is nothing to say of amsoil. You cannot say it is a good or bad lubricate simply based on the test IF bleach passes and if bleach is a bad lubricate. All it means, is that they both pass the test.
Also, soap does not clean oil "well." So that whole point is moot. Maybe you meant degreaser?