Formula Shell any good?
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This weekend Formula Shell was on sale at my local Target (Tar-zhay) for $2.29/qt. Would this be good stuff for a 5K OCI, about 75% city driving, 850-900 miles a month, no real cold weather?
Originally Posted By: Benzadmiral
This weekend Formula Shell was on sale at my local Target (Tar-zhay) for $2.29/qt. Would this be good stuff for a 5K OCI, about 75% city driving, 850-900 miles a month, no real cold weather?
If your OCM stays happy, then yes... there's no problem. The Formula Shell can't be any worse than the bulk oils that the quickie lubes and GM dealers use all the time.
I'd go 5K or the OCM, whichever is first.
This weekend Formula Shell was on sale at my local Target (Tar-zhay) for $2.29/qt. Would this be good stuff for a 5K OCI, about 75% city driving, 850-900 miles a month, no real cold weather?
If your OCM stays happy, then yes... there's no problem. The Formula Shell can't be any worse than the bulk oils that the quickie lubes and GM dealers use all the time.
I'd go 5K or the OCM, whichever is first.
I went through a case of it on the Highlander.. I used it for an A-RX clean and rinse, and still have 4 quarts left to use. Its fine if you don't plan any extended OCIs with it. Should be able to do 5k easy. -- just use a good quality filter.
Formula Shell is a good product. We know how good the EcoTech engines look on just about any oil, so that gives us a baseline to start from. This one is no exception:
Blue Goose's UOA 5+K with F.S.
Blue Goose's UOA 5+K with F.S.
Bought quite a bit of this oil in various grades at 49 cents a quart (including rebate) from a local chain store. Using it (in 5W-30) mainly in my 2006 Nissan Frontier which while still in warranty requires oil changes every 6 months. The truck will be out of warranty in May and I'll run the present fill a full year (maybe 5-6000 miles) and analyze the oil then. I expect it will hold up fine to my fairly gently usage.
It's a good product. I uses a Group II base and the last I heard a Lubrizoil additive package.
Great oil for the price,using it in my geo prism with no problems, even cut down the famous blue puff of smoke at startup
I used it for years and everyone loved my reports I posted. 5.7 in a 3/4 T 98 Burb that used to towed 10% of the time. 5k interval...
'99 3.0l Accord 7k interval
Search and you should be able to find my UOA's
They sell it at Costco and I used the 10W-30
'99 3.0l Accord 7k interval
Search and you should be able to find my UOA's
They sell it at Costco and I used the 10W-30
Not the same. Different base stocks and different additive packages. The only thing that might be close is that both Formula Shell and Quaker State both use Group II base stocks.
What base stock does YB use?
Group II+
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Originally Posted By: Benzadmiral
This weekend Formula Shell was on sale at my local Target (Tar-zhay) for $2.29/qt. Would this be good stuff for a 5K OCI, about 75% city driving, 850-900 miles a month, no real cold weather?
If your OCM stays happy, then yes... there's no problem. The Formula Shell can't be any worse than the bulk oils that the quickie lubes and GM dealers use all the time.
I'd go 5K or the OCM, whichever is first.
The what? The Obsessive-Compulsive Monitor?
Oh, you mean the oil life thingamajig. I think it will. I'm at 3000 miles into the current OCI, and the little robot in the dash reports 57% oil life left.
Maybe I need to pass by Tarzhay and stock up, then O'Reilly's for a Wix filter. . . .
Originally Posted By: Benzadmiral
This weekend Formula Shell was on sale at my local Target (Tar-zhay) for $2.29/qt. Would this be good stuff for a 5K OCI, about 75% city driving, 850-900 miles a month, no real cold weather?
If your OCM stays happy, then yes... there's no problem. The Formula Shell can't be any worse than the bulk oils that the quickie lubes and GM dealers use all the time.
I'd go 5K or the OCM, whichever is first.
The what? The Obsessive-Compulsive Monitor?
Oh, you mean the oil life thingamajig. I think it will. I'm at 3000 miles into the current OCI, and the little robot in the dash reports 57% oil life left.
Maybe I need to pass by Tarzhay and stock up, then O'Reilly's for a Wix filter. . . .
Originally Posted By: Johnny
It's a good product. I uses a Group II base and the last I heard a Lubrizoil additive package.
My question about the above stated is this. If Formula Shell is a Shell product and they create their own add pack for Pennzoil and Quaker State, then why on earth would Lubrizol make the add pack for Formula Shell? Not that I don't believe you Johnny, but why is that? Doesn't Lubrizol make Valolines add pack as well?
It's a good product. I uses a Group II base and the last I heard a Lubrizoil additive package.
My question about the above stated is this. If Formula Shell is a Shell product and they create their own add pack for Pennzoil and Quaker State, then why on earth would Lubrizol make the add pack for Formula Shell? Not that I don't believe you Johnny, but why is that? Doesn't Lubrizol make Valolines add pack as well?
Originally Posted By: strombony
Originally Posted By: Johnny
It's a good product. I uses a Group II base and the last I heard a Lubrizoil additive package.
My question about the above stated is this. If Formula Shell is a Shell product and they create their own add pack for Pennzoil and Quaker State, then why on earth would Lubrizol make the add pack for Formula Shell? Not that I don't believe you Johnny, but why is that? Doesn't Lubrizol make Valolines add pack as well?
Since you sent me a PM asking the exact same question, I will post my reply to your PM here for all to see.
Lubrizoil makes additive packages for everyone. It all has to do with cost. Shell uses additives from Lubrizoil, Ornite, Infineum, and Afton. All depends on what they are trying to accomplish.
In case you don't know, Ornite is made by Chevron Chemical and Infineum is a 50/50 partnership between Shell and ExxonMobil.
And, just in case you do not think I know what I'm talking about, send a PM to MolaKule and ask him about what I said. He a chemist and tribologist.
Originally Posted By: Johnny
It's a good product. I uses a Group II base and the last I heard a Lubrizoil additive package.
My question about the above stated is this. If Formula Shell is a Shell product and they create their own add pack for Pennzoil and Quaker State, then why on earth would Lubrizol make the add pack for Formula Shell? Not that I don't believe you Johnny, but why is that? Doesn't Lubrizol make Valolines add pack as well?
Since you sent me a PM asking the exact same question, I will post my reply to your PM here for all to see.
Lubrizoil makes additive packages for everyone. It all has to do with cost. Shell uses additives from Lubrizoil, Ornite, Infineum, and Afton. All depends on what they are trying to accomplish.
In case you don't know, Ornite is made by Chevron Chemical and Infineum is a 50/50 partnership between Shell and ExxonMobil.
And, just in case you do not think I know what I'm talking about, send a PM to MolaKule and ask him about what I said. He a chemist and tribologist.
What Johnny said.
All oil companies will buy from various sources. Some like XOM produce many of their own components, but also buy from additive suppliers.
Last I heard, Valvoline, Amsoil, RL, Joe Gibb's, Castrol and others use Lubrizol as an additive supplier. They may buy additive packages, or certain specific additives then buy from another source.
All oil companies will buy from various sources. Some like XOM produce many of their own components, but also buy from additive suppliers.
Last I heard, Valvoline, Amsoil, RL, Joe Gibb's, Castrol and others use Lubrizol as an additive supplier. They may buy additive packages, or certain specific additives then buy from another source.
Originally Posted By: Johnny
Originally Posted By: strombony
Originally Posted By: Johnny
It's a good product. I uses a Group II base and the last I heard a Lubrizoil additive package.
My question about the above stated is this. If Formula Shell is a Shell product and they create their own add pack for Pennzoil and Quaker State, then why on earth would Lubrizol make the add pack for Formula Shell? Not that I don't believe you Johnny, but why is that? Doesn't Lubrizol make Valolines add pack as well?
Since you sent me a PM asking the exact same question, I will post my reply to your PM here for all to see.
Lubrizoil makes additive packages for everyone. It all has to do with cost. Shell uses additives from Lubrizoil, Ornite, Infineum, and Afton. All depends on what they are trying to accomplish.
In case you don't know, Ornite is made by Chevron Chemical and Infineum is a 50/50 partnership between Shell and ExxonMobil.
And, just in case you do not think I know what I'm talking about, send a PM to MolaKule and ask him about what I said. He a chemist and tribologist.
Johnny,
Sorry if I sounded accusatory. That was not my intent. This is why I stated in my message that it's not that I don't believe you. Because I do believe you. I was simply inquiring on something that I thought I had heard somewhere else and simply wanted to confirm if that was wrong. I apologize for that.
Originally Posted By: strombony
Originally Posted By: Johnny
It's a good product. I uses a Group II base and the last I heard a Lubrizoil additive package.
My question about the above stated is this. If Formula Shell is a Shell product and they create their own add pack for Pennzoil and Quaker State, then why on earth would Lubrizol make the add pack for Formula Shell? Not that I don't believe you Johnny, but why is that? Doesn't Lubrizol make Valolines add pack as well?
Since you sent me a PM asking the exact same question, I will post my reply to your PM here for all to see.
Lubrizoil makes additive packages for everyone. It all has to do with cost. Shell uses additives from Lubrizoil, Ornite, Infineum, and Afton. All depends on what they are trying to accomplish.
In case you don't know, Ornite is made by Chevron Chemical and Infineum is a 50/50 partnership between Shell and ExxonMobil.
And, just in case you do not think I know what I'm talking about, send a PM to MolaKule and ask him about what I said. He a chemist and tribologist.
Johnny,
Sorry if I sounded accusatory. That was not my intent. This is why I stated in my message that it's not that I don't believe you. Because I do believe you. I was simply inquiring on something that I thought I had heard somewhere else and simply wanted to confirm if that was wrong. I apologize for that.
I'm about 1.5-2 weeks away from trying Formula Shell 5W20 in my 93 Aerostar. The PB deal was a hammer deal and certainly worth giving it a try.
Originally Posted By: Benzadmiral
This weekend Formula Shell was on sale at my local Target (Tar-zhay) for $2.29/qt.
Was looking for FS at Walgreens with rebate 4/5$ and 2.25 on sale. Short stocked though.
Ran across 5qt jugs of QS at local Wally for $10.50 in good supply, all weights including 5w-20, not too shabby. Also a SOPUS product.
This weekend Formula Shell was on sale at my local Target (Tar-zhay) for $2.29/qt.
Was looking for FS at Walgreens with rebate 4/5$ and 2.25 on sale. Short stocked though.
Ran across 5qt jugs of QS at local Wally for $10.50 in good supply, all weights including 5w-20, not too shabby. Also a SOPUS product.
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