Forget about changing your own oil in new Ford Ranger

[philipp10]

Originally Posted by Greggy_D
Originally Posted by philipp10

couple shields? Big deal.


You forgot about the part where a wheel needs to be removed for a freaking oil change.

There are some of us that prefer to use ramps. That's out the door now.

I don't understand this need to raise the car. I purposely bought a low oil pan. I just slide it under my car. I suppose now I would need to raise the Ranger (ironically it is plenty high and should not need to be).

 

[DuckRyder]

Seems like much ado about nothing.

The earlier linked video shows simply turning the wheels, though I am not sure it is the same engine.

Even if you do need to remove the wheel, unless its being over maintained tire rotation and oil change will go together anyhow.

 

[anndel]

That's almost short of pulling the engine

 

[eljefino]

10 extra minutes per change x 30 changes over the lifetime of the vehicle is 5 hours. That's a timing belt job or a clutch or some other major work. This truck is dumb.

I had a chevy cavalier with the 2.2 OHV engine in it that seemed like it was intended to be longitudinal. Weird braces around the starter, and a dumb pipe going from the passenger side over to the driver's side to meet up with the radiator. This truck sounds like a similar kludge.

And there are plenty of trucks out there with missing inner fender liners that get stressed out exhaust manifolds, from thermal shock, and other issues as well I'm sure.

 

[Silk]

Wow, what a lot of hate for something none of you have even worked on yet !!! There are a lot more simple jobs turned difficult on modern motor vehicles than a simple service on a Ranger. Admitedly I get to work on a hoist, and we only get the 5 cyl diesel, but as in the video, it's no big deal. I don't like the pins, they are ok the first couple of times, and then they become difficult, we replace them with easier ones to remove. I don't like seeing power tools used on the bashplate, but they are 10mm on the Ranger, so can take it...only 2 need to be removed, the front ones are slotted. I don't know if the engine you'll get has the same oil pump, but as soon as it slows to a drip, plug back in, fill and run up. I always do the filter first.

 

[Hounds]

Originally Posted by Silk
Wow, what a lot of hate for something [ . . .no one has . . . ] even worked on yet !!! . . .


Yes! This handwringing is just plain nuts.

As noted on another thread, removing the front tire isn't required; it simply ensures greater access to the oil filter via the fender well. Also, the "module cover" in question is actually a metal shield that protects the oil pan. The fact that the shield exists is hardly surprising on a truck. What is surprising is the number of Saturday morning "mechanics" who find removing four bolts to gain access to the sump plug a somewhat daunting task.

 

[BearZDefect]

Originally Posted by spavel6
Sounds like two plastic covers.. Just like any other plastic covered car, they'll probably be ripped off the first time you go through a JiffyLube and never put back...

Even the dealer oil change techs will 'lose' half of push-pin retainers by the second oil change.

 

[PimTac]

The point of this discussion is about the DIY in the driveway weekend warrior. Most don't have impact wrenches and the removal of the tire precludes using ramps.

 

[DoubleWasp]

It's not that it's a particularly difficult oil change. It's that this is going on for a 4-cylinder Ranger. It's very uncalled for. A bash plate, I get. But there is seriously a power steering module up in there? No thanks.

 

[jeepman3071]

Originally Posted by The Critic
At most, we are talking about an extra 2 min of work.

If you are not capable of removing several push pins and a few bolts, you should not be changing your oil anyway...


That's not the point many here are trying to make.

The issue is engineers making something unnecessarily complicated to increase maintenance costs of the vehicle. Their goal is obviously to steer the DIY'er or people who normally use quick lubes to go to the dealer, and we all know anything besides pulling a plug and removing a filter at a dealer will cost extra. How much does it cost for Ford to put an oil filter adapter on the engine for easier access? If they cut costs there, it sets the tone for where they might've cut costs elsewhere.


My complex German "maintenance hungry" BMW is probably the easiest vehicle I've done an oil change on in comparison.

 

[itguy08]

Originally Posted by PimTac
The point of this discussion is about the DIY in the driveway weekend warrior. Most don't have impact wrenches and the removal of the tire precludes using ramps.


I may be alone but I've never used ramps to change oil. I don't even own ramps. Everything gets jacked up, even the F150 as I can't squeeze under there. As has been pointed out earlier, with a 10k OCI you should be rotating your tires anyway so it's a moot point.

It's also funny how there is this much "outrage" over a rumor with no official maintenance procedures.

 

[zzyzzx]

More importantly, at least it has an oil dipstick. Does it have one for the transmission?

 

[zorobabel]

Originally Posted by Hounds

Yes! This handwringing is just plain nuts.

As noted on another thread, removing the front tire isn't required; it simply ensures greater access to the oil filter via the fender well. Also, the "module cover" in question is actually a metal shield that protects the oil pan. The fact that the shield exists is hardly surprising on a truck. What is surprising is the number of Saturday morning "mechanics" who find removing four bolts to gain access to the sump plug a somewhat daunting task.

Did you miss the part about the additional NINE push pins?

 

[CR94]

Originally Posted by itguy08
I may be alone but I've never used ramps to change oil. I don't even own ramps. Everything gets jacked up, ...
I never had to use ramps or jacking until the Prius, which is impossible otherwise. Never had to deal with balky plastic push-pins before, either.

How is jacking up safer or easier than ramps?

 

[KrisZ]

So much noise about nothing.

 

[dishdude]

Originally Posted by KrisZ
So much noise about nothing.


Yep. This is just another one of those BITOG threads you shake your head at.

 

[itguy08]

Originally Posted by CR94
Originally Posted by itguy08
I may be alone but I've never used ramps to change oil. I don't even own ramps. Everything gets jacked up, ...
I never had to use ramps or jacking until the Prius, which is impossible otherwise. Never had to deal with balky plastic push-pins before, either.

How is jacking up safer or easier than ramps?


I guess it doesn't bother me. With the F150 I have to jack it up, undo the plastic splash shield (4 of those turn things that are always hard to turn needing pliers) and then 4 bolts to remove the skid plate as you know the oil will never go through the cutouts completely. I don't know if ramps are more or less safe than jacks + stands. I've always jacked cars up so it's no big deal to me. The jack and stands are close by.

 

[exranger06]

So, it's basically the same procedure as a Nissan Rogue? Funny I've never heard anyone complain about oil changes on those, or any conspiracy theories about Nissan forcing people to go to dealers for oil changes. I've done several oil changes on a Rogue before, and it wasn't a big deal. I don't know if Nissan says you should remove the front wheel, but I never had to. Just crank the steering wheel all the way to the right, and you have easier access to the panel in the inner fender. Pop out several plastic push pins to remove the panel, and now you have access to the filter.

 

[dblshock]

Basic fundamental maintenance should be engineered easy not the other way, Ford can keep their '19 Ranger junk.

 

[dblshock]

Ford will sell a ton of Taco's with this stunt.