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Originally Posted By: wafrederick1
You could not convince my father's friend Harry to buy a Ford,He drives Chevys which he has not had any problems with,A Chevy fanatic and will never drive a Ford.
So, I drive Fords and have never had a problem with them. Some friends with Chevys have had problems with them? So which is worse? Fords because people you know had problems with them, or Chevys, because people I know had problems with them?
Name a manufacturer. ANY manufacturer, and there are TONS of people who have a had a bad experience so that they'll swear off that brand forever.
Reading your posts...ahh... stupidity like yours irritates me so much it makes my blood pressure rise. So never mind.
You could not convince my father's friend Harry to buy a Ford,He drives Chevys which he has not had any problems with,A Chevy fanatic and will never drive a Ford.
So, I drive Fords and have never had a problem with them. Some friends with Chevys have had problems with them? So which is worse? Fords because people you know had problems with them, or Chevys, because people I know had problems with them?
Name a manufacturer. ANY manufacturer, and there are TONS of people who have a had a bad experience so that they'll swear off that brand forever.
Reading your posts...ahh... stupidity like yours irritates me so much it makes my blood pressure rise. So never mind.
Don't let your blood pressure rise. Step back and look through all of wafrederick1 posts. I am convinced this is a paraody persona. Someone is having fun being ridiculous. I may have to much faith in human sensibilities however. In that case we can just feel blessed with our intelect and not let such a persona bother us, seriously this character can't be real.
Originally Posted By: rat
Here is one for Chevrolet:
Constantly having every vehicle recalled over lousy engineering techniques.
Brilliant!
Here is one for Chevrolet:
Constantly having every vehicle recalled over lousy engineering techniques.
Brilliant!
Originally Posted By: wafrederick1
Fords are the worst to work on,no room to get to anything!I know a guy whom has had 3 transmissions replaced in his Ford although he ia a Ford guy and Ford had to buy the vehicle back.You could not convince my father's friend Harry to buy a Ford,He drives Chevys which he has not had any problems with,A Chevy fanatic and will never drive a Ford.He goes with my father to the car auctions and says this when my father looks at a Ford: I will put my foot up your [censored]!My father hates Fords and will never own one since they have to be worked on all the time.If there is a hard way way,Ford and their dumb engineers need to come out to the field to see what mechanics have to go through hearing lots of cussing.Plus Ford electronic transmissions are horrible to diagnose and I know one transmission shop that can prove this.
My Dad's best friend's wife, who has a brother named Joe Bob who has a mother-in-law named Doris who has a cousin named Doug Einstein who has a dog named Hoover that is allergic to Chevrolets so Doug refuses to buy them. And if a dog named Hoover is allergic to Chevys, this is clearly proof that Ford is better than Chevy.
P.S. Ford electronic trans are no different to diagnose than any other electronic trans, genius.
Fords are the worst to work on,no room to get to anything!I know a guy whom has had 3 transmissions replaced in his Ford although he ia a Ford guy and Ford had to buy the vehicle back.You could not convince my father's friend Harry to buy a Ford,He drives Chevys which he has not had any problems with,A Chevy fanatic and will never drive a Ford.He goes with my father to the car auctions and says this when my father looks at a Ford: I will put my foot up your [censored]!My father hates Fords and will never own one since they have to be worked on all the time.If there is a hard way way,Ford and their dumb engineers need to come out to the field to see what mechanics have to go through hearing lots of cussing.Plus Ford electronic transmissions are horrible to diagnose and I know one transmission shop that can prove this.
My Dad's best friend's wife, who has a brother named Joe Bob who has a mother-in-law named Doris who has a cousin named Doug Einstein who has a dog named Hoover that is allergic to Chevrolets so Doug refuses to buy them. And if a dog named Hoover is allergic to Chevys, this is clearly proof that Ford is better than Chevy.
P.S. Ford electronic trans are no different to diagnose than any other electronic trans, genius.
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Originally Posted By: wafrederick1
Fords are the worst to work on,no room to get to anything!I know a guy whom has had 3 transmissions replaced in his Ford although he ia a Ford guy and Ford had to buy the vehicle back.You could not convince my father's friend Harry to buy a Ford,He drives Chevys which he has not had any problems with,A Chevy fanatic and will never drive a Ford.He goes with my father to the car auctions and says this when my father looks at a Ford: I will put my foot up your [censored]!My father hates Fords and will never own one since they have to be worked on all the time.If there is a hard way way,Ford and their dumb engineers need to come out to the field to see what mechanics have to go through hearing lots of cussing.Plus Ford electronic transmissions are horrible to diagnose and I know one transmission shop that can prove this.
My Dad's best friend's wife, who has a brother named Joe Bob who has a mother-in-law named Doris who has a cousin named Doug Einstein who has a dog named Hoover that is allergic to Chevrolets so Doug refuses to buy them. And if a dog named Hoover is allergic to Chevys, this is clearly proof that Ford is better than Chevy.
P.S. Ford electronic trans are no different to diagnose than any other electronic trans, genius.
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Im with ben my dog hates Yugos.. and you dont see my driving a yugo
Originally Posted By: wafrederick1
Fords are the worst to work on,no room to get to anything!I know a guy whom has had 3 transmissions replaced in his Ford although he ia a Ford guy and Ford had to buy the vehicle back.You could not convince my father's friend Harry to buy a Ford,He drives Chevys which he has not had any problems with,A Chevy fanatic and will never drive a Ford.He goes with my father to the car auctions and says this when my father looks at a Ford: I will put my foot up your [censored]!My father hates Fords and will never own one since they have to be worked on all the time.If there is a hard way way,Ford and their dumb engineers need to come out to the field to see what mechanics have to go through hearing lots of cussing.Plus Ford electronic transmissions are horrible to diagnose and I know one transmission shop that can prove this.
My Dad's best friend's wife, who has a brother named Joe Bob who has a mother-in-law named Doris who has a cousin named Doug Einstein who has a dog named Hoover that is allergic to Chevrolets so Doug refuses to buy them. And if a dog named Hoover is allergic to Chevys, this is clearly proof that Ford is better than Chevy.
P.S. Ford electronic trans are no different to diagnose than any other electronic trans, genius.
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Im with ben my dog hates Yugos.. and you dont see my driving a yugo
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Give him a few days, he'll have to ask his Jasper rep.
Originally Posted By: wirelessF
Every car brand fanboy/haterboy will have their own words.
Now need to find one for toyota.
Toyota= The One You Ought To Avoid.
Anyway, I do not have any experience with either truck, but it seems like Ford's reliability is a bit better than GM. I have an older GM vehicle right now and the quality has left a lot to be desired. However, I understand that things have also changed a lot at GM since 1996. Still, I think Ford is a bit more committed to quality than GM. Having said that, I still prefer GM products because of their design and their technology.
Give him a few days, he'll have to ask his Jasper rep.
Originally Posted By: wirelessF
Every car brand fanboy/haterboy will have their own words.
Now need to find one for toyota.
Toyota= The One You Ought To Avoid.
Anyway, I do not have any experience with either truck, but it seems like Ford's reliability is a bit better than GM. I have an older GM vehicle right now and the quality has left a lot to be desired. However, I understand that things have also changed a lot at GM since 1996. Still, I think Ford is a bit more committed to quality than GM. Having said that, I still prefer GM products because of their design and their technology.
Story. There's a Chevy truck on the side of the road, because it ran out of gas. I helped him push it to a gas station, where he filled up. After starting his gas gauge was beeping "low fuel"
Story. A Chevy Cavalier's fuel filter was leaking. Problem? The Chevy badge on the car.
Story. A Chevy Cavalier's fuel filter was leaking. Problem? The Chevy badge on the car.
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Originally Posted By: wafrederick1
Fords are the worst to work on,no room to get to anything!I know a guy whom has had 3 transmissions replaced in his Ford although he ia a Ford guy and Ford had to buy the vehicle back.You could not convince my father's friend Harry to buy a Ford,He drives Chevys which he has not had any problems with,A Chevy fanatic and will never drive a Ford.He goes with my father to the car auctions and says this when my father looks at a Ford: I will put my foot up your [censored]!My father hates Fords and will never own one since they have to be worked on all the time.If there is a hard way way,Ford and their dumb engineers need to come out to the field to see what mechanics have to go through hearing lots of cussing.Plus Ford electronic transmissions are horrible to diagnose and I know one transmission shop that can prove this.
Well good for Harry.
I've never had a problem with any of my Ford transmissions. My Explorer had 158K miles on the original, never rebuilt 4R55E when I sold it and it still shifted great. Not bad for a SUV that frequently towed a boat and had no transmission fluid cooler.
1/2 tons are basically all the same. Any will last a long time if used within its limits. I have seen 1/2 tons from all brands that have been driven hard for many miles without serious issues.
For 3/4 ton and larger trucks, I personally prefer Fords, but GMs and Dodges aren't bad either. I prefer the solid front axle on Fords and Dodges, but GM heavy duty pickups aren't bad.
If I was in the market for a full size gasser, I would probably buy an F-250 with the 5.4, but that's just me.
Fords are the worst to work on,no room to get to anything!I know a guy whom has had 3 transmissions replaced in his Ford although he ia a Ford guy and Ford had to buy the vehicle back.You could not convince my father's friend Harry to buy a Ford,He drives Chevys which he has not had any problems with,A Chevy fanatic and will never drive a Ford.He goes with my father to the car auctions and says this when my father looks at a Ford: I will put my foot up your [censored]!My father hates Fords and will never own one since they have to be worked on all the time.If there is a hard way way,Ford and their dumb engineers need to come out to the field to see what mechanics have to go through hearing lots of cussing.Plus Ford electronic transmissions are horrible to diagnose and I know one transmission shop that can prove this.
Well good for Harry.
I've never had a problem with any of my Ford transmissions. My Explorer had 158K miles on the original, never rebuilt 4R55E when I sold it and it still shifted great. Not bad for a SUV that frequently towed a boat and had no transmission fluid cooler.
1/2 tons are basically all the same. Any will last a long time if used within its limits. I have seen 1/2 tons from all brands that have been driven hard for many miles without serious issues.
For 3/4 ton and larger trucks, I personally prefer Fords, but GMs and Dodges aren't bad either. I prefer the solid front axle on Fords and Dodges, but GM heavy duty pickups aren't bad.
If I was in the market for a full size gasser, I would probably buy an F-250 with the 5.4, but that's just me.
Originally Posted By: Bryanccfshr
Personally I like the Ford F150 Over the Chevy. I grew up liking chevies and once in my less mature days has a calvin [censored] on Ford Sticker.
The fact is The Ford is a better truck has a better suspension and a stouter frame and arguable the better drivetrain. My mileage in a supercrew 4x4 f150 with the 5.4(my company truck) was 18.5 MPG last tank and that included city, Highway and oilfield(dirt roads some 4x4). Despite 40k miles of oilfield type service there are no squeeks or rattles and I have never had a want for more power. Brakes are great and the ride is comfortable.
Matter of fact I plan on bidding on the truck when the company decides to surplus it.
See I grew up in a GM family, all GM 99% of the time. My uncle and many of my friends had Fords and suffice to say both the GM and Ford car's had lots of problems(Car's now). I went with an 01 Impala and drove it for 7-8 years and I can't believe how much lemonade I drank from the Lemon stand. The car is with my brother and is now a pavement weight since the BCM went ape**** and needs to be replaced among other things. My one uncle has a 1980's Chevy pickup with a hydrolic lift gate. Thing has over 650k miles on it, rust in places you do not want to know, a door that will not latch properly(tied with a rope to a inner placeholder to keep it closed. He's had it for over 15 years(bought it used with some 150k on it for 4k). The engine and trans still run like new, he refuses to give up on it until it gives up on itself.
I had buddies with Ford Pickup's and I never thought i'd say it but their truck's are build MUCH better than their cars(both GM and Ford). His truck was put through [censored] and back, towing 90% of its life in 10 years, 200k miles. General maintenance only, sounds like my Jeep does now, kinda like a diesal sound lol, still runs strong and cranks like my Jeep does on the first turn of the motor.
Of the big 3 US maker's, i'd rank em Ford and Chevy, then Dodge(they get style points, I love the 08 Ram look). Reliability of a pickup is determined by the care taken to assemble and the maintain it.
My other buddy has a Ranger that he loves to death. He got the truck when he first started driving 13 years ago and went on to become a Ford Motor tech(he has a fetish for Ford). Still has it, and wants his son to get it when he's old enough(he's 5 years old now). Truck still looks new with 300+ miles, purr's like a kitten.
Personally I like the Ford F150 Over the Chevy. I grew up liking chevies and once in my less mature days has a calvin [censored] on Ford Sticker.
The fact is The Ford is a better truck has a better suspension and a stouter frame and arguable the better drivetrain. My mileage in a supercrew 4x4 f150 with the 5.4(my company truck) was 18.5 MPG last tank and that included city, Highway and oilfield(dirt roads some 4x4). Despite 40k miles of oilfield type service there are no squeeks or rattles and I have never had a want for more power. Brakes are great and the ride is comfortable.
Matter of fact I plan on bidding on the truck when the company decides to surplus it.
See I grew up in a GM family, all GM 99% of the time. My uncle and many of my friends had Fords and suffice to say both the GM and Ford car's had lots of problems(Car's now). I went with an 01 Impala and drove it for 7-8 years and I can't believe how much lemonade I drank from the Lemon stand. The car is with my brother and is now a pavement weight since the BCM went ape**** and needs to be replaced among other things. My one uncle has a 1980's Chevy pickup with a hydrolic lift gate. Thing has over 650k miles on it, rust in places you do not want to know, a door that will not latch properly(tied with a rope to a inner placeholder to keep it closed. He's had it for over 15 years(bought it used with some 150k on it for 4k). The engine and trans still run like new, he refuses to give up on it until it gives up on itself.
I had buddies with Ford Pickup's and I never thought i'd say it but their truck's are build MUCH better than their cars(both GM and Ford). His truck was put through [censored] and back, towing 90% of its life in 10 years, 200k miles. General maintenance only, sounds like my Jeep does now, kinda like a diesal sound lol, still runs strong and cranks like my Jeep does on the first turn of the motor.
Of the big 3 US maker's, i'd rank em Ford and Chevy, then Dodge(they get style points, I love the 08 Ram look). Reliability of a pickup is determined by the care taken to assemble and the maintain it.
My other buddy has a Ranger that he loves to death. He got the truck when he first started driving 13 years ago and went on to become a Ford Motor tech(he has a fetish for Ford). Still has it, and wants his son to get it when he's old enough(he's 5 years old now). Truck still looks new with 300+ miles, purr's like a kitten.
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Originally Posted By: wafrederick1
Fords are the worst to work on
Obviously you've never worked on a 4th gen F-body.
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no room to get to anything!
I could SIT in the engine bay of my F-250 and change the plugs......
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I know a guy whom has had 3 transmissions replaced in his Ford although he ia a Ford guy and Ford had to buy the vehicle back.
You know a guy. Now we're getting to the typical theme of your posts.....
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You could not convince my father's friend Harry to buy a Ford,He drives Chevys which he has not had any problems with,A Chevy fanatic and will never drive a Ford.
Ahhh yes, your Father's uncle's grandson's nephew's Doberman's poo-warmer story.... No, that's not anecdotal.....
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He goes with my father to the car auctions and says this when my father looks at a Ford: I will put my foot up your [censored]!
Sounds like he's looking for a reason to put something up your father's...... whoops!!!
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My father hates Fords
Good to see you are just a chip off the old block there....
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and will never own one since they have to be worked on all the time.
News to me. We've only been using them since the 1920's though, so I'm sure our experience is far less valid than your dad's.....
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If there is a hard way way,
a "way way" ?
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Ford and their dumb engineers
Again, the guy who's posts are a grammatical nightmare calling the engineers that design vehicles, when he couldn't design a pencil sharpener dumb.....
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need to come out to the field to see what mechanics have to go through hearing lots of cussing.
With all your anecdotal (let me explain: NOT FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE, in case you aren't familiar with the term) evidence, I'm sure your "in the field" information for Ford would be wonderful.
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Plus Ford electronic transmissions are horrible to diagnose and I know one transmission shop that can prove this.
Is they guy who runs the transmission shop related to your Jasper rep? And does your dad and his buddy Harry go hunting with him on weekends?
Fords are the worst to work on
Obviously you've never worked on a 4th gen F-body.
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no room to get to anything!
I could SIT in the engine bay of my F-250 and change the plugs......
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I know a guy whom has had 3 transmissions replaced in his Ford although he ia a Ford guy and Ford had to buy the vehicle back.
You know a guy. Now we're getting to the typical theme of your posts.....
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You could not convince my father's friend Harry to buy a Ford,He drives Chevys which he has not had any problems with,A Chevy fanatic and will never drive a Ford.
Ahhh yes, your Father's uncle's grandson's nephew's Doberman's poo-warmer story.... No, that's not anecdotal.....
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He goes with my father to the car auctions and says this when my father looks at a Ford: I will put my foot up your [censored]!
Sounds like he's looking for a reason to put something up your father's...... whoops!!!
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My father hates Fords
Good to see you are just a chip off the old block there....
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and will never own one since they have to be worked on all the time.
News to me. We've only been using them since the 1920's though, so I'm sure our experience is far less valid than your dad's.....
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If there is a hard way way,
a "way way" ?
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Ford and their dumb engineers
Again, the guy who's posts are a grammatical nightmare calling the engineers that design vehicles, when he couldn't design a pencil sharpener dumb.....
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need to come out to the field to see what mechanics have to go through hearing lots of cussing.
With all your anecdotal (let me explain: NOT FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE, in case you aren't familiar with the term) evidence, I'm sure your "in the field" information for Ford would be wonderful.
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Plus Ford electronic transmissions are horrible to diagnose and I know one transmission shop that can prove this.
Is they guy who runs the transmission shop related to your Jasper rep? And does your dad and his buddy Harry go hunting with him on weekends?
I'm usually a GM guy but I've owned many Fords and GM's. Both companies have their good and bad traits. I've always loved GM's interiors and motors. Most of their vehicles looked good up til recently. They've gotten bland. I love the mod motors but the rest of Fords motors aren't for me. To me they seem sluggish and anemic. Not too much of a fan of their styling but now they're really nice. I really disliked the 90's interior design. Everything was to me overly large and screams "HEY MORON THIS IS THE ON BUTTON FOR THE RADIO!!!" But my 99 GT was the most reliable car I've ever owned. Not to mention the easiest to work on behind the Jeep.
Originally Posted By: wafrederick1
Fords are the worst to work on,no room to get to anything!I know a guy whom has had 3 transmissions replaced in his Ford although he ia a Ford guy and Ford had to buy the vehicle back.You could not convince my father's friend Harry to buy a Ford,He drives Chevys which he has not had any problems with,A Chevy fanatic and will never drive a Ford.He goes with my father to the car auctions and says this when my father looks at a Ford: I will put my foot up your [censored]!My father hates Fords and will never own one since they have to be worked on all the time.If there is a hard way way,Ford and their dumb engineers need to come out to the field to see what mechanics have to go through hearing lots of cussing.Plus Ford electronic transmissions are horrible to diagnose and I know one transmission shop that can prove this.
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Hum...
My dad's aunt's sister has a brother whose son's girlfriend has a hairdresser named Jan that has a cat that lose's one of its nine lives everytime it sees a stupid post from WAFREDERICK1.
That cat is almost dead.
Fords are the worst to work on,no room to get to anything!I know a guy whom has had 3 transmissions replaced in his Ford although he ia a Ford guy and Ford had to buy the vehicle back.You could not convince my father's friend Harry to buy a Ford,He drives Chevys which he has not had any problems with,A Chevy fanatic and will never drive a Ford.He goes with my father to the car auctions and says this when my father looks at a Ford: I will put my foot up your [censored]!My father hates Fords and will never own one since they have to be worked on all the time.If there is a hard way way,Ford and their dumb engineers need to come out to the field to see what mechanics have to go through hearing lots of cussing.Plus Ford electronic transmissions are horrible to diagnose and I know one transmission shop that can prove this.
WAFREDERICK1 =
Hum...
My dad's aunt's sister has a brother whose son's girlfriend has a hairdresser named Jan that has a cat that lose's one of its nine lives everytime it sees a stupid post from WAFREDERICK1.
That cat is almost dead.
Some of the Ford lineup can be tough to work on, and some are just down right stupid. But, this goes for every manufacturer. No manufacturer makes 100% flawless easy to work on cars. They all make that rough turd once in awhile.
You want something "easy" to work on, a pre 96 Wrangler 6 banger will be the easiest thing you every laid your eyes on.
You want something "easy" to work on, a pre 96 Wrangler 6 banger will be the easiest thing you every laid your eyes on.
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