Originally Posted by SR5
Originally Posted by ka9mnx
"Also suitable for other passenger cars where ACEA A5/B5 or API SL/CF is recommended."
API SL/CF in 2020?
That is all to do with the API restrictions on Phos levels (ZDDP) where as ACEA doesn't have nearly as restrictive chemical limits.
A Ford 913-D oil must start out as a full synthetic ACEA A5/B5 (and SN) oil, then Ford add extra requirements on top to make it even stronger. The TBN minimum of 8 (under ACEA) is then increased to a min of 10 under Ford (for long oil life) and the ZDDP is increased to ~1000 ppm (from the SN of ~800 ppm) to reduce engine wear and improve timing chain life. Unfortunately this last increase (in ZDDP) pushes the oil outside of the API SN & ILSAC GF-5 chemical limits, even though it easily passes all of their quality tests. Note these chemical limits only apply to ILSAC grades (xW20, xW30) of oil and non-ILSAC grades (xW40, xW50) are not restricted so oils like M1 0W40 can and do have ~1000 ppm ZDDP while still being classified as API SN.
Ford 913-D is an excellent oil, full synthetic 5W30, Passing Euro A5/B5 (which not every Dexos1 oil can pass), with extra TBN to make it a long life oil (similar to oils like M1 EP or AP) and extra ZDDP to reduce engines wear. It is a Ford global spec oil, that is used all around the world, except in the homelands of Ford.
Can you even get Ford 913-D oil in North America?
I buy it here whenever it's on special, we get it as Valvoline SynPower, Castrol Magnatec, Shell Helix, plus Penrite and Nulon. It's the Ford oil to use here (Oz & NZ) and in much of Europe too I believe.
It's the oil Ford Australia put in your new Mustang when you bring it in for a dealer service. Both the V8 and the EcoBoost.
Understand. Thanks!
Originally Posted by ka9mnx
"Also suitable for other passenger cars where ACEA A5/B5 or API SL/CF is recommended."
API SL/CF in 2020?
That is all to do with the API restrictions on Phos levels (ZDDP) where as ACEA doesn't have nearly as restrictive chemical limits.
A Ford 913-D oil must start out as a full synthetic ACEA A5/B5 (and SN) oil, then Ford add extra requirements on top to make it even stronger. The TBN minimum of 8 (under ACEA) is then increased to a min of 10 under Ford (for long oil life) and the ZDDP is increased to ~1000 ppm (from the SN of ~800 ppm) to reduce engine wear and improve timing chain life. Unfortunately this last increase (in ZDDP) pushes the oil outside of the API SN & ILSAC GF-5 chemical limits, even though it easily passes all of their quality tests. Note these chemical limits only apply to ILSAC grades (xW20, xW30) of oil and non-ILSAC grades (xW40, xW50) are not restricted so oils like M1 0W40 can and do have ~1000 ppm ZDDP while still being classified as API SN.
Ford 913-D is an excellent oil, full synthetic 5W30, Passing Euro A5/B5 (which not every Dexos1 oil can pass), with extra TBN to make it a long life oil (similar to oils like M1 EP or AP) and extra ZDDP to reduce engines wear. It is a Ford global spec oil, that is used all around the world, except in the homelands of Ford.
Can you even get Ford 913-D oil in North America?
I buy it here whenever it's on special, we get it as Valvoline SynPower, Castrol Magnatec, Shell Helix, plus Penrite and Nulon. It's the Ford oil to use here (Oz & NZ) and in much of Europe too I believe.
It's the oil Ford Australia put in your new Mustang when you bring it in for a dealer service. Both the V8 and the EcoBoost.
Understand. Thanks!