Once bitten twice shy.
Farley has a big job on his hands.
Ford cuts prices of F-150 Lightening by 7-16%.
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Farley has a big job on his hands.
My 6 year old girl and i really enjoyed that.
Both look pretty good to, which is a huge bonus over the ugly tesla truck.
I have a BIL that put over 250K on a first year 3.5EB with no problems and 3K Jiffy Lube oil changes.
My 98 F150 4x4 still runs great, does everything that I need a truck to do, still has the original starter, alternator, PS pump, water pump and AC compressor....Ford made mine too well, I'll never buy another at prices they want.
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The question was simple. Thanks for the briefing.
I understand that perhaps 80% charge would be the norm, but so is filling up a tank. So to be more precise, how much money does it cost to charge up the average Tesla from a point where a reasonable person would feel as though it needed to be charged?? Do you have one or a similar vehicle? Leaving time out of the equation, if two people one with a honda and one with a Tesla went to the hypothetical "gas \ charge station"
I do have a genuine interest. Time spent is what it is. The owner knows that going in if they they are an idiot, and the time spent must be worth the "gain" of choosing an EV over a ICE.
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See my post #144.
Update: Today a different person from the ford dealer contacted me, and said she would be happy to have me come by and test drive a Lightning.
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Please post your review, would love to read it. I've reviewed a few EV's, including my current favourite, the BMW i4 M50.
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Great, how much does it cost to go from "needing to be charged" to "adequately charged" what is the cost in USD, the total for a full charge? Why is this so difficult for you to answer.???
No asterisks because he decided to pull the BS line across the board. There are no qualifiers because it’s 100% made up hyperbole. I’m telling you this consumer that has rosy pictures about being green doesn’t exist. The average consumer has some misconceptions, you as well, but they’re not as stupid and as easily molded as you’re suggesting. Now if you even suggest for a second that those buyers are totally molded and shaped by government policy that want to control consumers then you have to admit that you are as well. You just believe an alternative line of BS that is slightly more hidden.
Now if you want to continue on with “this is 100% honest and correct” it’s literally insults all the way through and you’re just not a reasonable person to deal with. It’s shows you have disdain for some of the people around you.
Pick whatever EV you want, get the battery size in KWh, multiply by 0.6 (your needing to be charged to adequately charged 20% to 80%), multiply by your electricity rate in $/KWh = cost you are asking for
Clearly it is super different for each car and where you get electricity from. Not sure how one cost number can be used.
They actually chose the fast way. They always knew it was a compromise.
That’s why they’re building BlueOval City and battery plant near Memphis. It’ll build the “T3” pickup, a ground-up EV platform. It’ll be Ford’s largest complex.
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...ruck--project-t3--at-blueoval-city-.html?s=09
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My best friend has a Hyundai electric, and at a charge station says it costs her about $3.50 Canadian per 100 kms to charge. She most often charges at home though, which is substantially less.
It’s a hard thing to explain when you’re framing it as using a public charging station like a gas station when no one does that. Whatever that costs is heavily offset by home charging so it’s not a clear snapshot. Slightly cheaper than gasoline is the answer. It’s a slight inconvenience when needed vastly offset by being able to fuel at home for a fraction of gas 98% of the time. If you’re suggesting only using public charging, I wouldn’t buy an EV for that use case.
You're reading way too much that simply isn't there. Plus you've got a vivid imagination that helps you do it.
Let's rephrase the question so we can cut to the chase. A guy pulls into a Tesla charging station. His battery reads 10 percent charge. How much is it going to cost to bring it up to 100 percent? Give or take.
Example. I pulled into my local gas station with my Toyota. It was slightly below 1/4 tank. It cost around $54.00 to fill it.... Give or take..... Same deal, only with a plug instead of a nozzle.
So let's run through a typical scenario.
The long range 3 and Y have 77 KWH batteries although it varies - the S and X are 100, but these are very expensive cars and don't represent the majority.
Lets say you arrive at a stop with 10% remaining or 7.7 KWH.
You charge to approx 80% - or to about 61.6 Total KWH you'd add about 53.9 KWH at say 50C a KWH so 26.95 for a typical fill up under a standard scenario.
This is going to take between 15 and 20 minutes, or between 10 and 15 minutes longer per stop than an ICE car providing the ICE driver only fuels and takes no extra time to pee, get a drink etcetera.
The Ice car typically has to make two stops the EV doenst - a fill up before the trip begins, and a fill up upon arrival or journey back where the EV typically starts every trip from home fully charged and charges at the destination and very often skips these.
Very best case this penalizes the ICE 2-5 minus stops, but dedicated stop are almost always more than 5 minutes because you have to pull off, and get to the station before you can start filling up so most of the time the gap is less than it would seem.
I do not own one of these vehicles but have the priviledge of getting to drive them because my employees often trade for one of my pickup trucks and I've been driving and road-tripping a variety of EVs for about 10 years. We installed 4 level 2 chargers at our offices.
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You have a warped perspective on what a friendly give and take conversation is. I tell you why it’s a poor way to show your opinion because of how it’s perceived by others and I’m told I’m wrong while you double down on explaining people just aren’t smart enough to see they’re being molded to want it for the wrong reasons. How is that is that ok? You literally frame your argument of standing at a point of intelligence superiority. You have got to be kidding me.
10%-100% on my car at listed supercharger rates shows me $25. That would be $7 at home.
I'm not "arguing". I gave my opinion. You're the one who keeps this going. I was done several posts ago. This to me is treading water while watching you swim against the current. You're going to drown tired.
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