For those that advocate 10K miles OCI

Read it again, I said that elsewhere they have shorter OCIs than we do.
places with hot dog water gasoline, yes. first world countries, nope

even the russian oil club with widespread fake oil and fuel quality issues is less off the rails than some of the people on here
 
Conversely, how can you prove that it doesn't. We all know that the same engine in different parts of the world has shorter OCIs, this was done to please mainly the North American Consumer who's reluctant to spend on maintenance and who keeps the vehicle for a shorter time than elsewhere.
Shorter OCI on crappier oil likely.
 
Conversely, how can you prove that it doesn't. We all know that the same engine in different parts of the world has shorter OCIs, this was done to please mainly the North American Consumer who's reluctant to spend on maintenance and who keeps the vehicle for a shorter time than elsewhere.

And there are areas with much longer OCI.

Dealership techs often develop a myopic view they see predominantly the problem children... just because most of his problem children are running long OCI does not mean that everyone running a long OCI has a problem child.
 
Conversely, how can you prove that it doesn't. We all know that the same engine in different parts of the world has shorter OCIs, this was done to please mainly the North American Consumer who's reluctant to spend on maintenance and who keeps the vehicle for a shorter time than elsewhere.
I seen plenty of bias opinions against longer OCI. This guy in the video need to show why Toyota's severe service driving is wrong compared to his assessment.
 
I use a UOA to guide me.

A 10k OCI works for my vehicle and driving conditions.
I back that up by testing.

What would work for other people under their driving conditions?
I have no clue.

The best thing is to test and find out what works for you.

Or just use a 3k OCI like your Grand Poppy used to.
 
Overall a good video. Not sure I agree with his comments on ATF though. He did not address the issues with DI engines and also fuel dilution. Overall, he recommends to do your homework!
 
" Most people don't qualify for 10k miles OCI"

I think this is the key observation on the video. If you do, that's fine.
 
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" Most people don't qualify for 10k miles OCI"

I think that this is the key observation on the video. If you do, that's fine.
Yes sometimes a year is reached first. The Lexus will have less than 5k on it and it is coming due for its first oil change because of time o will let the Lexus dealer take care of that. Plus they clean it up real nice for me.
My Tacoma gets 10k in less than 6 months. I used to do 5 k but I am piling miles on so fast the past year or two it doesn’t really matter. I can’t believe I am approaching 4 years and 70k with the original battery.. wow. This Mildly uncomfortable(compare to the RX wildly) truck is a mileage accumulating beast.


Other than just going with 1 year or 10k unless I tow or off-road or drive high altitude mountains a lot I don’t differ to much from the videos recommendations. I plan a transmission splash and refill @75k. did my diffs and safer case and spark plugs all between 60-65k.

taken me everywhere I need to be work and play.

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" Most people don't qualify for 10k miles OCI"

I think that this is the key observation on the video. If you do, that's fine.

Exactly, but I bet most people think they do qualify. The most vocal proponents of 10k OCI “no matter what” are the ones that never do UOA to confirm, and are just repeating talking points to justify their decision
 
Exactly, but I bet most people think they do qualify. The most vocal proponents of 10k OCI “no matter what” are the ones that never do UOA to confirm, and are just repeating talking points to justify their decision
I don’t think it’s productive to point fingers and make assumptions when There is disagreement. Especially on something like choosing severe or normal service intervals, people can argue about anything, politics, oil changes, how high to cut the grass, index or actively managed funds..

Other peoples choices don’t hurt you or I a bit, most aren’t looking for advice. And unless they were outright neglecting there vehicle putting themselves or others in harms way or if they friends and family and had relational consent for advice, I don’t.

Other than having performed the procedures to perform billable repairs, I know to take the advice of this car guy with a grain of salt, Just like Scotty, these opinions are anecdotal and biased in that he fixes broken machines and he has formed opinions based on his experiences. It doesn’t make him right or wrong, but his views are based upon his environment and experiences. Besides that many folks find it entertaining To create a debate when there really is no conflict.
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" Most people don't qualify for 10k miles OCI"

I think this is the key observation on the video. If you do, that's fine.
His criteria of people that qualify are different than what Toyota states. He never elaborates why. Sure, you might have engines that take oil, but we really don’t know how many are neglected per Toyota’s standard. Maintenance neglecting happens more than you think.
 
His criteria of people that qualify are different than what Toyota states. He never elaborates why. Sure, you might have engines that take oil, but we really don’t know how many are neglected per Toyota’s standard. Maintenance neglecting happens more than you think.
That’s true, I just had to have a coworker take her grand Cherokee in she had bought used, to get serviced. She had gone 20k without even a thought since she bought it used. She told me it was making a funny noise on a cold morning in the way to work. I checked it for her and the oil level was appropriate. I had some Mobil Delvac 1 ready to go for emergency too off. Told her to get it changed..i do t want her stranded on the side of the road during a cold spell..but I am not following up anymore.

so…I do t doubt it’s uncommon for many vehicle owners to skip skip a few services hear and there.
Running 10k is a cakewalk. Running an oil until There is smoke, funny noises or a problem makes for jaded mechanics. And of course everyone will say they faithfully followed the maintenance schedule..what a piece of junk.
 
What about Extended Performance oils such as Mobil 1 EP and Castrol Edge EP that claim to be good for 20,000 miles? Should those also be changed at 5,000 miles if vehicle is driven mainly in city, short trips, stop and go traffic, etc.?
 
What about Extended Performance oils such as Mobil 1 EP and Castrol Edge EP that claim to be good for 20,000 miles? Should those also be changed at 5,000 miles if vehicle is driven mainly in city, short trips, stop and go traffic, etc.?
Depends on the engine. If oil dilution with gas is an issue — it does not matter what oil you use.
 
he failed to mention the importance of a good quality fuel use in the cars if one wants them to keep them indefinitely

I change oil at 5K and transmission fluid at 30K on my vehicles and it served me great thus far; both of my cars are very capable of hitting that 300K mile mark in the future if opt to keep them that far down the road

of course and the rest of fluids accordingly
 
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