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[CKolo]

Good point and question @Hermann, but even if robots were applying the glue, Quality Dept. should be catching or addressing the excess. This is my opinion based on my time as a Quality Engineer who had the very unfortunate task of dealing with issues like this (not filters), i.e. robots over applying/under applying sealant on components. Absolute nightmare.

 

[Hermann]

Good point and question @Hermann, but even if robots were applying the glue, Quality Dept. should be catching or addressing the excess. This is my opinion based on my time as a Quality Engineer who had the very unfortunate task of dealing with issues like this (not filters), i.e. robots over applying/under applying sealant on components. Absolute nightmare.

I agree, but it is 2024 and it's hard to find someone who gives a darn about anything concerning quality.

 

[TheOilWizard]

I agree, but it is 2024 and it's hard to find someone who gives a darn about anything concerning quality.

I don't disagree with your general premise, but we have actually found companies that do care, at least more so than Motorcraft. Many here have recommended Microgard Premium and others for that reason.

 

[CKolo]

Quality issues/concerns slows the line down and when the line slows down, daily numbers aren’t met, throughput target goals aren’t met, which in the end equates to money.
All is affected:
Whether it be the line supervisor’s bonus, the plant manager vying for the VP position based on the plant itself meeting it’s throughput quarterly/yearly goals, and of course the company as a whole making the most profit.
Long-winded response, I know to merely state that often times, Quality is sacrificed for volume. At the root of it - money.
Experienced it first hand.

Of course, not all companies are guilty of this.

 

[Hermann]

I don't disagree with your general premise, but we have actually found companies that do care, at least more so than Motorcraft. Many here have recommended Microgard Premium and others for that reason.

It's like the dinner I had last evening at a new restaurant. Cold food and no one seemed to care. The waitress took it back and another cold one came out. They were both barely over tongue temp. The cook having a man bun should have tipped me off. At least the dinner was free. Took it home and warmed it up.

 

[Faawrenchbndr]

I agree, but it is 2024 and it's hard to find someone who gives a darn about anything concerning quality.

I “retired early” from the aviation world because of the lack of quality. Scares the **** out of me

Yeah, certainly not buying any Moorcraft 500s anymore

 

[ZeeOSix]

Maybe the robots are doing the gluing now. Would it require a less viscous liquid glue? They do RTV gaskets on assembly lines.

If robots were doing it then those robots should be programmed to do a perfect job with no sloppy excess glue all over the place. Same with the machines that form louvers ... whoever is setting up and running those machines don't care if the louvers are all closed off. Doubt they even have a manufacturing engineer and QA involved in any of that. Let the new guy play around with the machines until the output kind of looks something used to make an oil filter, lol. They look more like they were made by hand in a dirt floor shop in Pakistan like those YT videos show making oil filter. Little kids applying potting material by hand.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I agree, but it is 2024 and it's hard to find someone who gives a darn about anything concerning quality.

I'm betting it will get worse before it gets better. There will be new ways to cut corners to make up for ever increasing inflation that keeps going, and that could even become worse with some new chaos kickoff. Chaos never sleeps, lol.

 

[bullwinkle]

I'm betting it will get worse before it gets better. There will be new ways to cut corners to make up for ever increasing inflation that keeps going, and that could even become worse with some new chaos kickoff. Chaos never sleeps, lol.

If it wasn't for the rules, I would say MANUFACTURED chaos never sleeps... Not sure chaos is to blame for all these buyouts & takeovers, though-that seems a little too well organized!

 

[Alex D]

Ford reshuffled their slogan from the 80s to: At Ford "Quality is Problem 1"