Acdelco pf63 7k kms whippled coyote

[advocate]

This is from a friends truck. Had 7k kms on this run. This is a 700 rwhp on 94 octane pump gas 2020 Ford F150 5.0 coyote with a 3.0L gen 5 whipple. Almost 100k kms on the truck now (98k as of now). The metal end cap came off rather easily on the base end which is surprising with the amount of glue they have there. The adbv was still pliable but starting to get a little stiff.

Unfortunately the dealership that didn’t oil change mangled the filter a bit getting it off. So I had to cut the can down to get the media out. I have it leaching out the oil now and will update the post with the filter media once it’s dried up some. I’m including a pic of the baseplate, adbv and bypass next to a motorcraft fl2121 just to show how they are basically the same. As well as an obligatory dyno graph and picture of the truck.

 

[GMBoy]

Nice truck that deserved a better filter. The Delco is my least favorite filter based on 2 failures I experienced, price point vs quality (nitrile ADV and E-core) etc. Not the same quality filter that we grew up with.

 

[BTLew81]

Honestly asking…..what’s you preferred alternative?

 

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[silversport]

Nice truck that deserved a better filter. The Delco is my least favorite filter based on 2 failures I experienced, price point vs quality (nitrile ADV and E-core) etc. Not the same quality filter that we grew up with.

I realize getting burned would keep you from recommending them but I have read here and elsewhere that the clue can ACD filters have had several updates/upgrades since the E-Core came out and seem to do very well in comparison tests...

do you (or anyone) feel the newest version of the ACD filters is average to poor???...

what draws me to the ACD filters is on two cars I take care of turbochargers are involved and the bypass pressure specs have changed or altered over time with some of the aftermarket filters no longer being what they once were either...Mobil 1 I'm looking in your direction along with Wix and Purolator premium filters (possibly because they share the same parent company)

Bill

 

[GMBoy]

I realize getting burned would keep you from recommending them but I have read here and elsewhere that the clue can ACD filters have had several updates/upgrades since the E-Core came out and seem to do very well in comparison tests...

do you (or anyone) feel the newest version of the ACD filters is average to poor???...

what draws me to the ACD filters is on two cars I take care of turbochargers are involved and the bypass pressure specs have changed or altered over time with some of the aftermarket filters no longer being what they once were either...Mobil 1 I'm looking in your direction along with Wix and Purolator premium filters (possibly because they share the same parent company)

Bill

You make solid points and I also appreciate your understanding of my feelings towards AC Delco. So with that, I can say that while I don't use them I have customers who request them so I install AC Delcos for those folks and never any issues that I can see. I will also add that when I had failures it was more than 7-8+ years ago so since then I know they went E -core (plastic cage with large openings) and while I don't like the E Core design there is nothing proving that it is a bad design. My opinion only which does not take priority over facts and data. To answer your question regarding the thought of them, well I think they are just an average filter. Nothing wrong with their published specs- but then nothing about the filter is superior to other filters in the same (and even some cheaper) price range. I think it is unacceptable for the ACD filter to have a rubber nitrile ADB when most vehicles push 8-12k mile OCI with their OLM and with those longer distances you should have a silicone ADV in there as rubber just hardens sooner and it seems to me that 5k is the max (on average) a filter with nitrile ADV can go before it hardens up or otherwise deteriorates. Lastly, you bring the true statement regarding filters such as Wix not being as good as they once were. My opinion is I would choose a Fram Ultra or Endurance, an STP XL, Champ XL or similar filters over an AC Delco as they are the same price but offer silicone ADV, more dirt holding capacity , better filtration % (this might be wrong but I know the media is better in these options) and (to me) better made with the metal center tubes (non ecore) and often a little thicker can. With all this blabbering I just did...will using an AC Delco filter hurt your motor? No way. Are there better filter choices? Possibly yes. You mentioned your concern with bypass pressures and that can be an important spec to meet for your use so maybe the AC delco is your best choice - you have to choose based on your needs and wants not what other's opinions (me included!) .

 

[silversport]

thank your response is exactly how I feel...

I purchased several ChampXL oil filters to use in my 2005 Yukon Denali 6.0 as I like the heavier can and silicone ADBV...I would probably buy these for the GF's 2013 2.0T Malibu or even my 2016 V-Sport 3.6TT but I haven't been able to find them for sale...

the ACD Gold (Racing filter/Ultra/other names) no longer have a silicone ADBV and from what I've seen several of my older "go to" filters are no longer Champion made but are Mann-Hummel owned and Mobil 1 filters were at least for awhile NOT recommended for the 3.6TT so I stuck with the ACD blue can since it seemed to be preferred by the V-Sport/ATS-V crowd...

thank you for taking the time...I appreciate your response

Bill