FL500s (with even more glue!)

[ZeeOSix]

Is there any chance that this stuff is really from a different part of the engine and was filtered out by the filter?

Nope ... way too many Motorcraft filters exhibit this issue.

 

[TheOilWizard]

Is there any chance that this stuff is really from a different part of the engine and was filtered out by the filter?

No chance. But I do appreciate a healthy skepticism when reports like this are made.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Nope ... way too many Motorcraft filters exhibit this issue.

And it's been going on for a while now - 1st video from June 2023 and 2nd video from Feb 2023.

 

[TheOilWizard]

Smart move ... I did the same.

What was the date code on that FL500S?

June 2023 manufacture date.

Purchased November 2023 from RA.

 

[OVERKILL]

Nope ... way too many Motorcraft filters exhibit this issue.

So we went from Tear-o-Lator to Glue-o-Lator?

 

[Bill7]

Excess glue breaking loose is not a good thing. It can easily make it through the bypass valve and into the engine. Thanks for the c&p!

The choice of oil filter is more important than ever now that so many brands have cheapened their filters and added sloppy quality assurance and inherent defects (leaks). It's reaching a point where engines are put at risk.

 

[CKolo]

Hey @TheOilWizard. I hope you don’t mind me hijacking your thread for a minute. Adding my pics as well. Most concerning is the loose glue up near the bypass valve area and inside (clean side) of the tube. On a positive note, at least the louvers looked good . Absolutely done with Motorcraft. I realize if this was a huge issue, there would be 5.0 engines, as well as others, dropping left and right. That’s not the point. This is unacceptable. I shot a quick 10 sec. vid of how easy the glue comes of but apparently I need to do my homework on how to upload it.

 

[Glenda W.]

Hey @TheOilWizard. I hope you don’t mind me hijacking your thread for a minute. Adding my pics as well. Most concerning is the loose glue up near the bypass valve area and inside (clean side) of the tube. On a positive note, at least the louvers looked good . Absolutely done with Motorcraft. I realize if this was a huge issue, there would be 5.0 engines, as well as others, dropping left and right. That’s not the point. This is unacceptable. I shot a quick 10 sec. vid of how easy the glue comes of but apparently I need to do my homework on how to upload it.

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Great pics thanks. The glue is 100% getting through the bypass and into the engine….

 

[CKolo]

@ZeeOSix
The date code is 2024. I always put mileage and date on the can with sharpie. Tried cleaning the sharpie off with brake-clean to read the rest of code and yep…you guessed it, remaining date code came off.
So there’s that!

 

[Kira]

At least the louvers are open! Pick your poison.

 

[CKolo]

So true @Glenda W. , unfortunately.
It’s been in the low teens here lately in NC mornings. My OCI’s are 5k max on M1 EP or Valvoline EP.
(Save it everybody. I do 5k because I want to )
Seeing the sloppy glue on these MC filters had me concerned about bypass events. Not from excess delta p from filter loading, but from that initial start up with the oil being thicker. Albeit the bypass event is typically quick and short, it’s a bypass event nonetheless. So I decided to cut open my MC from my last change to see for myself.

Motorcraft boasting about how their bypass valve is up top, thus preventing any dirty oil getting pulled up is a joke now. No, instead your **** glue is getting let through!

 

[ZeeOSix]

Absolutely done with Motorcraft. I realize if this was a huge issue, there would be 5.0 engines, as well as others, dropping left and right. That’s not the point.

What I'd worry about is that debris getting into and blocking VCT screens and similar. Note the talk at time 0:35 regarding debris from the oil filter (torn media, and this crap glue coming off would also be a concerned).

Note at time 0:54 they show a Motorcraft filter with torn media ... you can see the center tube through the torn media, lol.

 

[CKolo]

You read my mind, Z!

 

[ZeeOSix]

Seeing the sloppy glue on these MC filters had me concerned about bypass events. Not from excess delta p from filter loading, but from that initial start up with the oil being thicker. Albeit the bypass event is typically quick and short, it’s a bypass event nonetheless.

Some have reported finding some of that glue in their drain pan too when doing an oil change, so that means it had to go through the bypass valve at some point.

 

[MrCoyote]

Try the MicroGard Select 57502 from O’Reilly’s. Switched to them on my Mustang GT awhile back and have been extremely satisfied. Build quality on the MicroGard Select is second to none.

 

[CKolo]

Thanks @MrCoyote.
Been looking at those as well based on recommendations here. Next oil change I’ll probably try one. Using Carquest Premium (Vietnam) right now.

 

[OVERKILL]

Another option is the Donaldson P577066. COO is apparently the US, I'd use that over China if given the choice.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Thanks @MrCoyote.
Been looking at those as well based on recommendations here. Next oil change I’ll probably try one. Using Carquest Premium (Vietnam) right now.

The Carquest Premium for the Coyote is the same guts as the MicroGard Select. Both made by Premium Guard.

 

[CKolo]

Yep, discovered that in my research Z.

Thanks @OVERKILL. Big fan of Donaldsons as Diesel is my background and am employed by large Diesel/Truck OEM.

I did research that particular part number, however they seem to have a similar glue issue as MC. The vid below is 2 years old so they may have cleaned up their act.

Donaldson P577066

Stills below from vid:

 

[TheOilWizard]

Thanks for the post @MrCoyote .. That is exactly what I picked up for the current OCI on the Mustang.

@CKolo Great information, thank you!