First brand new vehicle-2011 Altima 2.5SL

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Originally Posted By: Striker
Ok guys I think I'm slowly starting to get some of this. I've got a long way to go before my first fluid change but I definitely wanna know what to be putting in.

I think for me it's either down to the new Castrol Edge or the 100% Synthetic Amsoil. Both in the manufacturer recommended 5W30


Here the two Amsoil motor oils since you will be not doing extended drains:

Amsoil XLF 5W-30

Amsoil OEF 5W-30
 
Originally Posted By: kcfx4
Originally Posted By: Grambo
Another Person Bashing Mobil 1, i have tried edge,royal purple,syntec etc.... and they burnt up really quick. and i switched back to mobil 1 0w40 and it decreased oil consumption dramatically. There is a reason why top car manufacturers use Mobil 1 as their factory fill.

what do you mean by "burnt up really quick"? and cmmonsence says m1 deal with what you refer to top car manufactures using m1 as factory fill is based on numerous reasons, one being price, not to mention idk of edge or syntech offering a 0w40, not comparing apples to apples by any means


Well when i said it burnt up real quick i meant the oils that i specified Castrol Edge,Syntec,Royal Purple were consumed very quickly compared to mobil 1 of the same viscosity. and again my engine is in top operating condition. Nissan Engines are notorious for consuming oil and i understand that, so with that said i prefer mobil 1 because it performs very well with little to no consumption. If mobil 1 isn't your choice of oil thats fine, but i have found with all of my nissan engines mobil 1 excels. EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN OPINION!
 
As said before, everyone is entitled to their thoughts and opinions. My opinion and preferance is still towards a good and quality castrol synthetic in a 5W30.
 
you mentioned edge, wich would be my choice for sure! you can get 5qts and a K&N oil filter for $32.99 at autozone Feb 8th thru march 7th. even tho its you first new car, id still let price and avalibilty as a buying factor, good oil good filter good price readily available! id see what you can get from amsoil for a comparitive price if any, if not, theres a good decision. some may rebuttal via avalibility at that price for edge, ive been able to find it at that price every 3-4 months, there for its easy to get in advance of the oci
 
Much thanks guys. Is PP the same group as Edge?
Also been reading about Castrol Edge with Titanium. How's this compare to ordinary edge?
 
Originally Posted By: Striker
Much thanks guys. Is PP the same group as Edge?
Also been reading about Castrol Edge with Titanium. How's this compare to ordinary edge?

i think its the same group, but pp isnt extended run nor is pu for that matter, but edge is, as for "titanium" im guessing thats marketing for the new spec
 
junkie, im guessing you were responding to my last post? both castrol and mobil are changing names/labels as of the sn gf5, that was what i was referring to
 
ive used castrol edge before and my my vq35 ran extremely smooth, until it drank all of it
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i haven't used Pennzoil Platinum nor Ultra. I have read that nissan engines do well with them. Autozone is offering many oil specials as stated above, thats where i got my Mobil 1 special. Here is the link:

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/inourstores/circular.jsp;jsessionid=18F7C6BFE9F9528F5B56ABC01C8F5871.diyprod4-b2c8?intcmp=20101213_iz_3
 
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PP does not use any group iv but they say they use a superior group III that they call group III+. Edge is a mix of group III and group iv. Both have strong additive packs. I personally think EDGE compares more evenly with PU but any of these are way more than you really need. Use any synthetic oil that you want and sleep well at night. =)

If you really want to overthink it like I and a lot of others here like to, compare PDSs and look up UOAs
 
Originally Posted By: sangyup81
PP does not use any group iv but they say they use a superior group III that they call group III+. Edge is a mix of group III and group iv. Both have strong additive packs. I personally think EDGE compares more evenly with PU but any of these are way more than you really need. Use any synthetic oil that you want and sleep well at night. =)

If you really want to overthink it like I and a lot of others here like to, compare PDSs and look up UOAs


Like he said whatever makes you sleep better period.
 
Thanks a lot guys. I've been doing some more reading on oil in general. Supposedly group III fluids are only allowed to be labeled/marketed as synthetic oil in the US?

Newb Question again-If I was to take Castrol Edge in a 5W30 weight, and take Amsoil in the same weight, are they both considered synthetic fluids?
 
Originally Posted By: Striker
Thanks a lot guys. I've been doing some more reading on oil in general. Supposedly group III fluids are only allowed to be labeled/marketed as synthetic oil in the US?

Newb Question again-If I was to take Castrol Edge in a 5W30 weight, and take Amsoil in the same weight, are they both considered synthetic fluids?


1) Not a US only thing. Most all countries now call Group III fluids synthetic. Europe is/was the last hold out, but they are changing as well. SOME Group III base oils are excellent and have near Group IV properties.

2) Yes. But with Castrol, you are being very specific by writing "Edge". With Amsoil you are being quite general. Amsoil has OE, XL, ASL, and HDD in 5W-30 to choose from. OE and XL being Group III, ASL and HDD being Group IV/V. HDD would be the cleanest best wear protection, except it's outside the API bounds.
 
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: Striker
Thanks a lot guys. I've been doing some more reading on oil in general. Supposedly group III fluids are only allowed to be labeled/marketed as synthetic oil in the US?

Newb Question again-If I was to take Castrol Edge in a 5W30 weight, and take Amsoil in the same weight, are they both considered synthetic fluids?


1) Not a US only thing. Most all countries now call Group III fluids synthetic. Europe is/was the last hold out, but they are changing as well. SOME Group III base oils are excellent and have near Group IV properties.

2) Yes. But with Castrol, you are being very specific by writing "Edge". With Amsoil you are being quite general. Amsoil has OE, XL, ASL, and HDD in 5W-30 to choose from. OE and XL being Group III, ASL and HDD being Group IV/V. HDD would be the cleanest best wear protection, except it's outside the API bounds.


Pablo, the above highlighted sentence interests me. All technical terms aside (which I'm not 100% familiar with) this would be the best choice for cleanest and best wear protection.

Am I following right?
 
Originally Posted By: Striker
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: Striker
Thanks a lot guys. I've been doing some more reading on oil in general. Supposedly group III fluids are only allowed to be labeled/marketed as synthetic oil in the US?

Newb Question again-If I was to take Castrol Edge in a 5W30 weight, and take Amsoil in the same weight, are they both considered synthetic fluids?


1) Not a US only thing. Most all countries now call Group III fluids synthetic. Europe is/was the last hold out, but they are changing as well. SOME Group III base oils are excellent and have near Group IV properties.

2) Yes. But with Castrol, you are being very specific by writing "Edge". With Amsoil you are being quite general. Amsoil has OE, XL, ASL, and HDD in 5W-30 to choose from. OE and XL being Group III, ASL and HDD being Group IV/V. HDD would be the cleanest best wear protection, except it's outside the API bounds.


Pablo, the above highlighted sentence interests me. All technical terms aside (which I'm not 100% familiar with) this would be the best choice for cleanest and best wear protection.

Am I following right?



IMO, yes. But it's not recommended by the manufacturer. Your manual says API SL/SN I assume. HDD is neither, because the Phosphorous (P) exceeds the 800 ppm limit. The reason for the limit on P is potential catalyst poisoning.
 
Much thanks for that info sir. See had I gone with that oil, who knows what would have happened down the road.

I think i'll be doing more reading on the castrol edge. I guess the new "titanium" brand name is the only edge available?
 
Originally Posted By: Striker
Much thanks for that info sir. See had I gone with that oil, who knows what would have happened down the road.

I think i'll be doing more reading on the castrol edge. I guess the new "titanium" brand name is the only edge available?


I fail to see why you did not comment on my recommendation for Amsoil OE and XL? I can also assure these two oils will be cleaner than Castrol Edge and will be very price competitive.
 
OE = is the original Group III based API oil from Amsoil and it used to be called "XL". This oil is one of the top Group III oils, and is Amsoil's lowest cost motor oil. Can be had for as low as $4 qt. Consistently produces good UOA's over the years. It's usually sold at quick lube places for standard recommended OCI's.

XL = This is now a new API Group III motor oil from Amsoil - well except it has the same good base oils as OE, however has a very stout new additive package. Also recommended for standard OCI's, but can be used for slightly longer intervals.

Not so confusing when you consider most oil companies are doing more product tiering. Thanks!
 
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