Knock off the personal criticism, bickering and political claims, or this thread goes away.
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Everything is subsidized like federal loan guarantees for nuclear power.But solar isn't "free" either, you have a major capital investment that you need to depreciate and has a limited lifespan itself. The cost of solar is often artificially depressed as well though using FIT's or REC's.
Guess so. Toyota website. Camry 2.5 28/39......Camry Hybrid 51/53
I watch a little of both and both use correspondents on the ground. For a brief few minutes at the beginning of hostilities each of the extremist biased news net works called each other poopy heads less.I have been watching CNN because they actually have people on the ground in the Ukraine-where FOX has talking heads pontification with no one actually on the ground. But yeah-I hear the fanaticism.
Our electric is going up almost double according to supplier. Thought I`d pick up a Volt but not so easy.Electricity is going up as well. We just had a double digit % increase and the utility wants another 16% approx starting next fall.
By that logic, everything is solar powered.Electric vehicles are mostly fossil fuel powered anyway.
Go to Japan and the overwhelming majority of average vehicles from the past 10-15 years are hybrid, with the past 5 years PHEV being all over. The only expectations are kei cars(660cc limit gov regulated class of mini car/truck/van), sports cars, and some euro luxury cars. From sub compact to full size suv, hybrids are the norm. If you cruise around Japan for a while it is easy to see why Japanese autos(particularly Toyota) were slow to get on the full EV bandwagon, hybrids sell like hotcakes and they fit 90% of peoples needs perfectly. They obviously thought ICE->PHEV->BEV was the logical path, and BEV only when solid state battery tech or Li tech was to the point of near range/recharge parity of gas refuel. Its confusing to me when people suggest that Japan big 3 were behind on electric when before Tesla they were virtually the only OEMs doing real development and mass production of battery/Emotor tech in cars on a big scale with their hybrid tech(although GM gave it a good shot in the 90s with their EV but were shut down for shady reasons). Toyota has been doing R&D on solid state batteries since the early 2000s. They just did not anticipate Teslas becoming a cultural phenomena.Hybrids have largely been also rans and I don't understand why. They should have been kings of the road for several decades before a big push for all electric came to fruition. All EV at this point is cart before the horse.
What vehicle did you fill up and what is your driving routine, if you don't mind me asking?Filled up Monday with the gauge at about 1/8 for $35. Good for another 600 miles now.
We get plenty of crude oil piped in from Canada every day so that has no effect on gas prices.......Oh, the kickback! It's just information, and like all info, the reader takes what is useful and discards the rest. I had to go back and read the article after seeing the kickback. I can see the error in the article because they used the on road recharge price vs. the home price. Energy charges vary from state to state so the cost varies from state. Use, whatever, energy source you like, but, do not make low income people suffer by ,artificially, reducing the U.S. supply and preventing our ability to pipe Canadian oil into the U.S. Jacking the price of gas up, hurting poor American drivers, hurts all Americans.
Re: part in bold.""U.S. electricity prices, which are heavily regulated in most states, have remained stable, however, and the cost to charge an electric car is still much lower than filling up one with an internal combustion engine, but only if you have a place to plug it in at home or a lot of time on your hands.""
Yea- the math doesn't work on the poster you asked the question of.What vehicle did you fill up and what is your driving routine, if you don't mind me asking?
Well fossil fuel prices are going up which would translate to NG power plants increasing the cost of electricity. Maybe nuke and coal power plants are cheaper but I'm sure they would increase the price just because they can?By that logic, everything is solar powered.
So there's that.
Both statements are true, but irrelevant to the specific cost of refueling conversation.
The 2.5 engine is used in both the ICE Camry and in the Camry Hybrid. I'm sure there are some additional tweaks to the Hybrid 2.5, but, regeneration works.You're saying the mpg gains are all due to regenerative braking?
Yep, it's supply and demand.Re: part in bold.
Just wait until they figure out how, and require people who charge at home to be on a dedicated EV charging meter that charges a much higher price for power than the meter that monitors the power going to the rest of the house. IMO, that will happen as more and more EVs are in use. Some of the higher EV power charge at home will include "road use tax" to replace "gas tax".
Well, if we get "plenty", how come the price is sky rocketing? Supply and demand. We don't have enough supply to keep the price down. The Keystone pipeline will provide 800,000 more barrels per day to the U.S., and, the $ we pay for the oil stays on the North American Continent making all of us more prosperous.We get plenty of crude oil piped in from Canada every day so that has no effect on gas prices.......
I'm no expert on this but regardless which party is in office, the petroleum industry will make money hand over fist regardless the price of crude. …..( major edit)Well, if we get "plenty", how come the price is sky rocketing? Supply and demand. We don't have enough supply to keep the price down. The Keystone pipeline will provide 800,000 more barrels per day to the U.S., and, the $ we pay for the oil stays on the North American Continent making all of us more prosperous.