Features you do NOT like on new vehicles?

Love HQ Bluetooth ApT-X and the high power digital amp in my base Ford. Who would have thunk?

I repeat, Subaru messed up BIG TIME with the HVAC touchscreen on the Outback. At least there is a max defrost override hard button. This interfaced could be greatly improved with some software changes i.e, larger GUI
 
Stop start -- ugg hate it
adaptive cruise control that gets confused when a car is exiting the highway and applies the brakes, my 250 will slam the brakes sometimes in this situation.
lane keep -- just hate it, hate it , hate it, did I tell you I hate it, if not just so you know I hate it.
Several of these things make sense based on vehicle purpos.
Blind spot for example is good. But lane assistant, regardless that it can be annoying, comes handy when hauling kids.
For example, when I had BMW X5 and had one kid, turning back to see what he did was not big deal as vehicle had telepathic steering. I knew exactly when it started to move regardless that I didn’t pay attention (if it started, as it tracked road like crazy). I changed that car for Toyota Sienna. Never thought of BMW steering in that way until I got minivan. Always thought of BMW steering from strictly performance point of view.
Sienna on other hand does not communicate anything from the road, period. It is not that feedback is bad, it is absolutely nonexistent. Turn around to see what kids spill? Off we go from the lane and I have no clue that it happened. Of course it tracks road like wheelbarrow.
So besides BSM, I really wish if I had lane assist on Sienna.
I think it is really good feature on minivans and similar vehicles.
 
How did I forget THAT one of all things to add to my list...?!? YES! Burn it with FIRE! 🔥🧨🔥
I like that feature! One click and down it goes. Wish the other windows had it. Used to have a car with auto-up, that was nice too. Again, one click up and it went home.

What I dislike about it though is that VW had it programmed right: once the window was moving, clicking the button either way would cancel. Toyota, not so much, have to push the button in the opposite way that it is traveling. VW window stopped faster too, so it was "easier" to stop the window where I wanted it. [Of course not using the auto up/down was always an option.]
 
My only complaint about one-touch windows are the ones which are TOO sensitive. My new WRX for example.... It takes four or five tries to get the window to stop at any intermediate position.
 
Seat belt reminder that never goes of ever ( Mercedes-Benz)
Rear fog light (Mercedes-Benz)
Push button parking brake

No dipstick trans (Tacoma)

0w20 oils

Start stop with each key cycle instead of permenate off
 
My only complaint about one-touch windows are the ones which are TOO sensitive. My new WRX for example.... It takes four or five tries to get the window to stop at any intermediate position.
Yes the new Subaru switch gear seem to have been severely cost constrained. In fact, it is junk.
Contrast my Mahindra built Ford AWD CUV from India was 17K out the door and they use Lincoln parts bin switchgear - properly engineered and tactiley correct. NP here with one-touch down, you have to use pretty high force to enter the OTD mode.
 
Toys on cars are like drugs or pornography....the customers always want more.
Keeping up with the Jones' (aka, the cars the competitors offer) is the perverse part the game. Foolish customers want everything they see or have heard about.
You could take the alloy wheels and Sunroof off my car and give me the money anytime.
I'd prefer good cloth/fabric to "dead cow" seating any day of the week.
Add me to the low profile tire haters. They're a stupid appearance and tactile feedback option on everyday cars.

Touch screens don't belong in cars. The contacts are weak in an environment which is heavy on vibrations and often hyper moisturized. Add to that, this bling is rushed to market (see "Jones', above) so it can't be good.
Any "screen" should have corresponding buttons ASIDE it as they are in jets. You can replace those switches easily and cheaply.

Since so few people get flats now-a-days I can almost accept a can of slime. However, I don't think they work. A 1/3 inflated tire on which I can't exceed 25 mph is bogus.

Lane change warning stuff (Heaven only knows how many types there are) might keep some stoner from drifting into me so the jury is still out.

Complaints about similar styling are dismissible as aerodynamics call the tune there.

Has anyone mentioned LED headlights/taillights which are built into the fixture and not replaceable?

How 'bout the license plate lamps which are now LED and part of a $120 harness?
If reducing the amount of copper wiring is ever part of an equipment design argument, complete recycling of dead cars should be thrust into the forefront. "We make our cars cheaper because materials are expensive"....that's how we can charge you less and less.

What a colossal mash up of growing pains. They're perfecting fewer features because they keep adding junk toys.

This leaves me confused, dismayed and with less money.
 
I like that feature! One click and down it goes. Wish the other windows had it. Used to have a car with auto-up, that was nice too. Again, one click up and it went home.

What I dislike about it though is that VW had it programmed right: once the window was moving, clicking the button either way would cancel. Toyota, not so much, have to push the button in the opposite way that it is traveling. VW window stopped faster too, so it was "easier" to stop the window where I wanted it. [Of course not using the auto up/down was always an option.]
If you ONLY have the window all the way up or all the way down, sure. But if you're like 99% of us who want to just crack a window once in a while, it is unfathomably rage-inducing. It shouldn't take 27 attempts to get the window exactly where you want it. Meanwhile you are wearing out your window motor with the endless up-down-uuuup-down-up-dowwwwwwn-uppppp-down-up-dowwwn-uuuuuuup-down-up. Just stop being lazy and press the button for the whopping 3 seconds it requires to completely open or close the window so that the rest of us don't have to be punished. Then all we have to do if we want to crack it one inch is press the button for half a second and it stops the instant we let go. This also means we don't have to take our attention off the road for 3 whole minutes while we fight with the stupid nanny "convenience" technology because the mass population is lazy. It's also a safety thing when you look at it this way.

Edit: to be clear, I'm not attacking you in any way. Re-reading my reply...it sounds hostile. I am hostile to the manufacturers who force this junk, not at you. :)
 
If you ONLY have the window all the way up or all the way down, sure. But if you're like 99% of us who want to just crack a window once in a while, it is unfathomably rage-inducing. It shouldn't take 27 attempts to get the window exactly where you want it. Meanwhile you are wearing out your window motor with the endless up-down-uuuup-down-up-dowwwwwwn-uppppp-down-up-dowwwn-uuuuuuup-down-up. Just stop being lazy and press the button for the whopping 3 seconds it requires to completely open or close the window so that the rest of us don't have to be punished. Then all we have to do if we want to crack it one inch is press the button for half a second and it stops the instant we let go. This also means we don't have to take our attention off the road for 3 whole minutes while we fight with the stupid nanny "convenience" technology because the mass population is lazy. It's also a safety thing when you look at it this way.

Edit: to be clear, I'm not attacking you in any way. Re-reading my reply...it sounds hostile. I am hostile to the manufacturers who force this junk, not at you. :)
I don’t understand—all the cars I’ve driven with this feature (albeit not many) have two step buttons. Light press, then you feel the stop, then press a bit harder to push through. Light press does not engage the auto feaure, the window stops when you let off.

Are there cars that only have auto up/down on the button? that’d certainly would grind my gears.
 
I don’t understand—all the cars I’ve driven with this feature (albeit not many) have two step buttons. Light press, then you feel the stop, then press a bit harder to push through. Light press does not engage the auto feaure, the window stops when you let off.

Are there cars that only have auto up/down on the button? that’d certainly would grind my gears.


This is correct.
 
New vehicles often come with 'upgraded' features and benefits such as safety or design layout, reliability issues fixed from prior models, etc. At this point you'd think the auto should be near perfected. But it seems for every 5 steps forward we take about 3 back. Here are some of the gripes as to why I don't buy new vehicles, other than outrageous costs and depreciation.

* Too many recalls. I'm not interested in being a beta tester. Recalls on things we should have long ago perfected like steering, brakes, airbags, etc. really ward me away.
* Making maintenance harder for the consumer or DIYer. The removal of dipsticks and sealed systems is a big one I detest.
* The looks - too many modern cars look the same, and are ugly. I also do not like the large bass-mouth grills, and the large obnoxious lights found on some like the trucks with the huge [ grill ] lighting. Ugh.
* Speaking of lights, why do headlights turn off when the turn signal is engaged? Who thinks losing a headlight is a good feature?
* Cars turning off when stopped at intersections. This must be really bad on the starter, fuel economy, and engine wear.
* Much cheaper materials, like paper thin leather seats and upholstery that wears out in 10k miles.

I'm sure there's more.
I absolutely do not like Electronic Start Stop. You should at least not have to turn it off every time you drive. I bought programmers to take care of that in my Jeeps. That said, the Etorque in our 2021 Jeep works seemlessly. I just don't use it because I don't want more wear on the engine than is necessary.
 
I don’t understand—all the cars I’ve driven with this feature (albeit not many) have two step buttons. Light press, then you feel the stop, then press a bit harder to push through. Light press does not engage the auto feaure, the window stops when you let off.

Are there cars that only have auto up/down on the button? that’d certainly would grind my gears.
The wife's new Subaru doe NOT have enough of a step between AUTO up and down and the regulator operation.

I was trying to adjust the passenger window on a trip last week and was fiddling with it for about a minute then I gave up and closed the freaking thing. Absolutely NO issue in my little Ford with Lincoln parts-bin switchgear.

So, simply, some switches are improperly designed. I guess try before you buy.
 
If you ONLY have the window all the way up or all the way down, sure. But if you're like 99% of us who want to just crack a window once in a while, it is unfathomably rage-inducing. It shouldn't take 27 attempts to get the window exactly where you want it. Meanwhile you are wearing out your window motor with the endless up-down-uuuup-down-up-dowwwwwwn-uppppp-down-up-dowwwn-uuuuuuup-down-up. Just stop being lazy and press the button for the whopping 3 seconds it requires to completely open or close the window so that the rest of us don't have to be punished. Then all we have to do if we want to crack it one inch is press the button for half a second and it stops the instant we let go. This also means we don't have to take our attention off the road for 3 whole minutes while we fight with the stupid nanny "convenience" technology because the mass population is lazy. It's also a safety thing when you look at it this way.

Edit: to be clear, I'm not attacking you in any way. Re-reading my reply...it sounds hostile. I am hostile to the manufacturers who force this junk, not at you. :)

😁 . Maybe there's group therapy for one touch window users , if not , start one .
 
I don’t understand—all the cars I’ve driven with this feature (albeit not many) have two step buttons. Light press, then you feel the stop, then press a bit harder to push through. Light press does not engage the auto feaure, the window stops when you let off.
On some cars, the switch is just too sensitive. The Subarus that keep being mentioned, for example.
 
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