Back to the D0 335, it's fast.
Does anyone. Know, could it turn? How well?
Does anyone. Know, could it turn? How well?
Fastest Piston Fighter Of WWII
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It doesn’t look like to would turn well, higher wing loading than contemporary fighters.
And the cockpit visibility isn’t great either, a big liability in a guns only fight.
Do they have any completely flat (no airfoil) wings there?
Turns better than other 2 engine fighters, which had the engines in the wings. But the mass is higher than most or all single engine fighters so that's not helping.
But Germany was interested in fighter/bombers only at that time. Sacrifices were made in the fighter department to get airplanes that carried bombs aswell.
There’s at least one other. It’s used to be in the German Museum in downtown Munich or it was. They openEd a separate aerospace museum within walking distance of MUC outside of the city. It’s probably out there now. If you are flying from there it’s well worth a look Sort of a ***** duckling compared to the Me262 nearby.
That may be the same one, it was exhibited in Germany for a while after its restoration at the Dornier factory and prior to returning to the US
Claude Dornier's brilliant center line thrust not only produced
the war's fastest piston power propeller fighter but also the
fastest twin engine aircraft of the war out pacing Lockheed's
P38 and DeHavilland's Mosquito...
Dornier Do.335-B4 380mph at Sea Level and 478mph at 36,000...
the war's fastest piston power propeller fighter but also the
fastest twin engine aircraft of the war out pacing Lockheed's
P38 and DeHavilland's Mosquito...
Dornier Do.335-B4 380mph at Sea Level and 478mph at 36,000...
Thanks, I’ll be interested to watch that later.
Heard of this aircraft, but hadn’t paid it much attention until now, I guess, due to it not having been used much.
my dad was in the 210th m.p. co. guarding the newly captured ludendorff bridge over the rhine river at remagen in march 1945. one of his repeated stories was seeing me262 jet fighters screaming just above the river coming at the river crossing with p51 mustangs hot on their tails. after releasing their payloads the me262s would go vertical, leaving the mustangs far behind in the dust. he said that the sights and sound of it opened the future. it amazed him what germany was capable of producing even so late in the war. half of his m.p. unit, him included, assaulted easy red sector, omaha beach, normandy, before first tide on june 6, 1944. he was eternally grateful that the luftwaffe had no jet fighters a year earlier.
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The Germans were/are very smart! I am so proud of my grandfather and his contribution to his country. I wish I had asked him so many more Q?'s when I visited him. But, when you're young your mind is elsewhere. I still remember those pics he had. Very horrific, but he was only doing his job.
They accomplished a lot with the lack of proper metals to accomplish the tasks, and ruined factory's as well.
Thanks to your Dad.
O/T but...
Where I learned to fly there was this quiet but pleasant older gentleman. He had a Reed Clipped Wing Cub and would fly it on calm days, otherwise he would hang around the airport or in his hangar with his dog. This airport was cliquish and you had to work you way in with the old timer crowd, but he was more pleasant. One day he called me over to his hangar and I noticed he had a map of Europe with I want to say 52 pins...one for each mission. He was a B24 Bombardier/Navigator. One pin was different color for when he had to bail out over Yugoslavia where he was smuggled back by Partisans. I remember him showing me a picture of him as a young Lieutenant saying "I was your age once" with a smile. Wrote a very nice note and drew a B24 on my shirt tail when I soloed. Sadly, he has passed.
He mentioned that there were rumors of the new German jet, but Command assured the aircrews that the threat was overstated, etc. One mission, two Me 262's tore through the formation hitting two aircraft then circled back for another pass. The escorting Mustangs turned to pursue, but the Me's "just walked away from them". He said he remembered black smoke "puffs, like an old steam engine" as the Me's throttled up. He said the flight back was silent.
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You failed to mention a whooping 37 were built. In contrast 1500 P-51 Mustangs were built.
So far ahead.............................
Yeah, the requirement for a new heavy bomber being able to dive bomb kept the Germans from developing a heavy bomber in time to do any heavy bombing.What do you mean? Requiring your heavy bomber (He 177) to also function as a dive bomber is a totally logical and not at all insane requirement
It also kept Germany from developing the jet fighter before that was too late. The only way the designers were able to get the design past Hitler was to put bomb racks under the wings. By the time they had jet fighters built in sufficient numbers they had run out of experienced pilots (and fuel).
Hmmmm, I wonder where America found the design for the stealth bomber, nuclear weapons, rockets,............Shall I continue so you roll can your eyes some more?You failed to mention a whooping 37 were built. In contrast 1500 P-51 Mustangs were built.
So far ahead.............................
The design for the original nuclear weapons was a British-American partnership. The development occurred in the US where there was space and resources but the scientists were British and American.Hmmmm, I wonder where America found the design for the stealth bomber, nuclear weapons, rockets,............Shall I continue so you roll can your eyes some more?
German scientists had been early on the scene in theoretical nuclear work well before WWII. A number of European scientists fled while that was still possible. Germany had a nuclear program in WWII but I'm unclear how advanced it was. The allies did their best to slow them down by disrupting their supply of heavy water (most of which was being extracted with hydroelectricity in Norway) and they don't seem to have realized that carbon would also work as a moderator.
One television program claimed that a brilliant flash and a mushroom cloud had been observed from the edge of one of the German experimental areas with the suggestion it had been a nuclear weapons test. That explosion (assuming it occurred) might not have been nuclear, though it does sound suspicious. And Hitler was really big on developing revenge weapons.
It's interesting to consider how the war would have all turned out if the Nazis had been able to deliver a few nuclear weapons, say to London and New York (using a multi-stage V2, which they were also working on).
No doubt the Germans were decades ahead of everyone else in rocket/missile development. In fact the joke went around that progress on the early satellites depended on who had more German rocket scientists. Germany had developed an early cruise missile (the V1) and of course a missile capable of delivering a heavy explosive (the V2). Their extreme range field gun (the V3) was disrupted by destroying the site with bombs.
Again, let me reiterate, the Germans were way ahead of their time!
Sorry, it's the half German in me that's very proud of them.
I was referring to the ability to actually produce and deliver.Hmmmm, I wonder where America found the design for the stealth bomber, nuclear weapons, rockets,............Shall I continue so you roll can your eyes some more?
Everything from tanks to tires, aircraft to K rations.
Going from the drawing board to the battlefield (and crossing 2 oceans) takes knowledge and abilities that Germany did not possess, or they had them but their system did not allow it to happen.
I can list production figures on a multitude of items (many are above the 10:1 ratio) that will truly roll your eyes.
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I understand.
What l'm referring to is the knowledge the Germans possessed, which no other country could touch at that time! And, YOU yourself know this for a fact. That's why l am so proud of my German ancestors and the knowledge they possessed. Especially my grandfather. Hitler snatched him up for hjs mechanical abilities after graduating from Munich University. He was a Panzer tank commander, and most likely was involved in designing that tank, as well as others.
So, now you see why l AM so proud of him.
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