Originally Posted By: rfeir
I have always run Mobil 1 since it hit the market in all my vehicles, and always change the oil once a year. I have never hade a sludge or wear issue with any of my vehicles, and I keep them a long time.
Are you related to tig by any chance?
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Originally Posted By: dave1251
I use 5W20 "conventional" and at nearly 8K the oil is still at the full mark.
My Magnum used less than half a PINT of oil in 7500 miles. I ran exlussively 5w-20, conventional or the dealer's syn-blend.
My 04 ram hemi didn't consume anything that I noticed and it was winter so the truck ran 8-10 hours a day including warming up enough to clear the frost off the windshield and I don't recall the oil ever smelling like fuel. It had 250k on it at that time using 20 grades its entire life.
My charger doesn't consume anything that I can notice using 20 grade oils.
As far as the comment in respect to empty oil pans at 8000 miles that is unquestionably owner neglect and I don't care if a 30 grade was being used. When an owner doesn't take 15 seconds to check things out they shouldn't expect anything different.
Originally Posted By: Bladecutter
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Man you guys are spoiled you need to run some vintage European cars! 1 quart per 700 miles was considered fine...
Modern motors are just about maintenance free.
There was one guy on one of the Fiat forums that was complaining about his 2012 Fiat 500c using 1/2 of a quart of oil over an 8k mile oil change interval. That's an average of 2 ounces of oil every 1k miles.
He feels that no reputable car company should sell a car that uses that much oil before the 100k mile mark.
Here's his exact post:
Originally Posted By: carfreak09
I change my oil based on the oil light. It's gone off once as early as 4k but this last time it went off at 8k. I take mine to the dealer so I'm not sure what brand of oil they use. I drive predominantly in suburban settings, ie speeds of 45-60 mph with stops. I normally shift at 2400 rpms and am in 5th gear by 40-45 mph. I do realize that the amount its burning oil isn't really a problem as far as the manufacturer is concerned, but its something I expect from an engine with over 130k, not 29k. I don't know what kind of cars you've been dealing with but a well built engine won't burn any oil until well past 100k. My friend allowed his 2010 Ford Focus to go about 16k without changing the oil. By your expectations, the engine should have been empty. It was still full though I'm sure that engine with be an oil burner before long. My previous Hyundai Accent never burned a drop of oil between the 6k oil changes under the same driving conditions. My 500 is burning oil at about the same pace as the 2 rotary Mazdas I've owned, which burn oil by design. Taking my previous experiences into account is why I feel it should be listed as a problem.
BC.
This is quite simply the funniest thing I've read here in quite some time. Wait til it gets colder and he lets it idle,coupled with a few 5 mile drives. He'll swallow his tongue once he sees the oil level increase because of fuel accumulation.
I wonder what he'll post on that when it happens.
