EV snow plows falling short.

[FreedomOne]

Seems like they should have seen that coming. Extra load equal massive reduction in usability.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/new-york-abandons-electric-snow-plows/ar-AA1jyazz

 

[oldhp]

Ya think??? This whole electric thing is a joke.

 

[hrv]

Ya think??? This whole electric thing is a joke.

We have 4 electric busses here in Louisville they purchased a few years ago...They are all broke down after spending over 9 MILLION bucks on them...A total waste of tax payers money.....

 

[KGMtech]

I know that eventually the electric stuff will be sorted, is it close now? not for most people.

 

[supton]

Little confused. Article refers to it as a test. Sounds like they tried something on a small scale, found it didn’t work, and are calling it quits (for now at least).

Isn’t this how to is supposed to work?

 

[fsdork]

In similarly shocking news, I tried to turn a boulder into gravel using a rubber mallet. The stupid thing is now shredded and unusable. Rubber mallets are worthless.

 

[Leo99]

It was one truck according to the article. The truck works for what it was designed for, garbage. Didn't work well for snow plowing. Strange times that we live in that this is even newsworthy.

I'm assume 100 years ago some farmer failed plowing with his car and went back to oxen in an early defeat for mechanical propulsion.

 

[FreedomOne]

We have 4 electric busses here in Louisville they purchased a few years ago...They are all broke down after spending over 9 MILLION bucks on them...A total waste of tax payers money.....

Our UPS center purchased two trucks for downtown deliveries and they were broken within months. They sat in the back for the next two years. Unsure what happened to them in the end.

 

[dnewton3]

I suspect that several city's truck shop guys and drivers knew how this would turn out, but they were going to have to "prove it" to some appointed city agency green-dreamer whose desire is an all-electric fleet. So, they tested one unit, knowing darn good and well it wouldn't end well. And it didn't. On the plus side, it was only one truck and so the wasted effort was very minimal in the overall budget of NYC.

 

[blufeb95]

In similarly shocking news, I tried to turn a boulder into gravel using a rubber mallet. The stupid thing is now shredded and unusable. Rubber mallets are worthless.

I don't see how that's comparable, it's not like they stuck a plow on the front of a Tesla Model 3 and tried to do it, they actually used an EV that are designed to replace a comparable class of HD vehicle.

 

[Torrid]

I think a lot of people are taking the EV thing too personally and just want to complain when something doesn't test out. Who cares, they'll do what's best. At least they tried a thing instead of jumping in head first.

Some of ya'll really need to calm down about it. It's not a personal attack on you that we have battery powered vehicles.

 

[Leo99]

I think a lot of people are taking the EV thing too personally and just want to complain when something doesn't test out. Who cares, they'll do what's best. At least they tried a thing instead of jumping in head first.

Some of ya'll really need to calm down about it. It's not a personal attack on you that we have battery powered vehicles.

It's an attack on truth, justice, and the American way of life.

 

[Torrid]

It's an attack on truth, justice, and the American way of life.

Read it again. Stop taking it personally.

Seriously comical.

 

[eljefino]

I find it interesting that New York delegates snow removal to their trash guys ("dept of sanitation") vs DPW or similar "road works" crews.

A hybrid or electric trash truck makes a lick of sense, they just creep along, mostly. Must sound funny in the early morning hours, having no idling engine noise then suddenly trash cans get dumped in a glass-breaking racket.

 

[97prizm]

I know that eventually the electric stuff will be sorted, is it close now? not for most people.

Polestar just showed off a battery that can charge 100 miles in 5 minutes. The big thing is the ev's work great in Southern California where the temperatures are fairly consistent. The issue is developing a battery that is resistant to extreme heat and cold.

 

[Torrid]

I find it interesting that New York delegates snow removal to their trash guys ("dept of sanitation") vs DPW or similar "road works" crews.

A hybrid or electric trash truck makes a lick of sense, they just creep along, mostly. Must sound funny in the early morning hours, having no idling engine noise then suddenly trash cans get dumped in a glass-breaking racket.

I didn’t realize that. Sanitation here is a contracted company but our plows are county employees.

 

[OVERKILL]

Polestar just showed off a battery that can charge 100 miles in 5 minutes. The big thing is the ev's work great in Southern California where the temperatures are fairly consistent. The issue is developing a battery that is resistant to extreme heat and cold.

Batteries don't charge in miles (this continues to drive me nuts), how many kWh is it taking on in 5 minutes?

 

[LenZee]

Next up, Tested garbage truck at my local airstrip. Did not get off the ground. Electric vehicles are garbage!
Seriously, A electric snowplow might get reduction gears for heavy plowing or a multi gear transmission.
Garbage trucks are adapted to plowing, They aren't intentionally designed for it but they have the capacity to do it.
I've worked on garbage trucks with plows and have replaced burnt up transmissions a few times. And the salt of the North east ate the frames up quickly.

 

[MrHorspwer]

Strange times that we live in that this is even newsworthy.

You mean an article written by "PBE" (seriously, that's who is credited by the site) on essanews.com, a site run by WP Media out of Warsaw, Poland isn't a paragon of journalism?

Yet another clickbait article whose sole purpose is to generate ad revenue that some BITOG user found on social media and thought to share.

A quick google search shows this decision was made quite a while ago, with actual news articles to support it. This quote from the essanews "article,"

In our test of the non-diesel rear-loaders, we found that they could not plow the snow effectively, they basically conked out after four hours — we need them to go 12 hours,

was actually from a NY City Council meeting in November, 2022.

This is a trash can article that feeds off clicks from users who social media algorithms have already pegged as anti-EV. Not surprisingly, the topic has been picked up and spawned similar "articles" by the usual dumpster fire "news" sites (greenjihad, breitbart, and so on).

Stop falling for this garbage. It's not hard to spot the difference between actual news sources and "news" sites.

 

[Torrid]

Next up, Tested garbage truck at my local airstrip. Did not get off the ground. Electric vehicles are garbage!
Seriously, A electric snowplow might get reduction gears for heavy plowing or a multi gear transmission.
Garbage trucks are adapted to plowing, They aren't intentionally designed for it but they have the capacity to do it.
I've worked on garbage trucks with plows and have replaced burnt up transmissions a few times. And the salt of the North east ate the frames up quickly.

Right tool for the right job. Like you said though with standard reduction it's almost direct drive and tends to be tougher than a transmission. They need enough power on board to do the job though. Doesn't do any good if it doesn't have enough battery to finish the task.