engine running while getting gas !!!
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The point is leaving a vehicle with the engine running unattended is negligent. I don't know why people think this is primarily about cars catching fire and blowing up.
Have you ever seen a video of a dog or toddler driving off because the mentally challenged or dumb as hay vehicle operator left the engine running while tending to other things? I have seen those videos.
Have you ever seen a video of a dog or toddler driving off because the mentally challenged or dumb as hay vehicle operator left the engine running while tending to other things? I have seen those videos.
if the handbrake is on and it's out of gear it makes no difference whether running or not. personally i wouldn't do it, but many do. I use to do it working at the mines in 45 deg C to keep the A/C running while I had to hop out to check works out.
This issue with cars being unsafe if a driver isn't sitting in the seat is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. It's even sillier than the worry about gassing up with the engine running.
All sorts of machinery from lawnmowers to locomotives is left running without an operator at the controls. Yet how often to we hear about the machinery driving away on it's own?
Reading this thread makes me realize why anti-anxiety medication is so prescribed in this country. It appears a lot of people need it and in very large doses...
All sorts of machinery from lawnmowers to locomotives is left running without an operator at the controls. Yet how often to we hear about the machinery driving away on it's own?
Reading this thread makes me realize why anti-anxiety medication is so prescribed in this country. It appears a lot of people need it and in very large doses...
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Reading this thread makes me realize why anti-anxiety medication is so prescribed in this country. It appears a lot of people need it and in very large doses...
It's the Psy-ops end of the pacification program.
I think BrianWC (?) kinda poked at this when someone asked about changing his factory fill out early.
"Better change it. It might have battery acid in it." (the insatiable need to FIND things to have anxiety over)
Reading this thread makes me realize why anti-anxiety medication is so prescribed in this country. It appears a lot of people need it and in very large doses...
It's the Psy-ops end of the pacification program.
I think BrianWC (?) kinda poked at this when someone asked about changing his factory fill out early.
"Better change it. It might have battery acid in it." (the insatiable need to FIND things to have anxiety over)
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Originally Posted By: jsharp
This issue with cars being unsafe if a driver isn't sitting in the seat is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. It's even sillier than the worry about gassing up with the engine running.
All sorts of machinery from lawnmowers to locomotives is left running without an operator at the controls. Yet how often to we hear about the machinery driving away on it's own?
Reading this thread makes me realize why anti-anxiety medication is so prescribed in this country. It appears a lot of people need it and in very large doses...
This post, coming from someone who lives "Outside smalltown, IL," makes somewhat sense. It does not make sense for those of us who live in metropolitain areas.
Anyway, in the city they probably won't turn the pump on if you keep the engine running. There are too many drive-offs as it is.
This issue with cars being unsafe if a driver isn't sitting in the seat is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. It's even sillier than the worry about gassing up with the engine running.
All sorts of machinery from lawnmowers to locomotives is left running without an operator at the controls. Yet how often to we hear about the machinery driving away on it's own?
Reading this thread makes me realize why anti-anxiety medication is so prescribed in this country. It appears a lot of people need it and in very large doses...
This post, coming from someone who lives "Outside smalltown, IL," makes somewhat sense. It does not make sense for those of us who live in metropolitain areas.
Anyway, in the city they probably won't turn the pump on if you keep the engine running. There are too many drive-offs as it is.
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That sentence makes no sense.
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Originally Posted By: jsharp
All sorts of machinery from lawnmowers to locomotives is left running without an operator at the controls.
You picked a couple devices that have had deadman controls for decades.
No kidding? My 3 yo Cub Cadet has a parking brake. If it's set you don't need an operator in the seat or anywhere near the controls. The newest ones don't either. Same with the equipment owned by my farmer friends. None of it requires a person in the seat or at the controls when the engine is running.
I do have a friend that works at a CN railroad maintenance shop. I'll be sure and tell him they have hundreds of malfunctioning locomotives.
Originally Posted By: jsharp
All sorts of machinery from lawnmowers to locomotives is left running without an operator at the controls.
You picked a couple devices that have had deadman controls for decades.
No kidding? My 3 yo Cub Cadet has a parking brake. If it's set you don't need an operator in the seat or anywhere near the controls. The newest ones don't either. Same with the equipment owned by my farmer friends. None of it requires a person in the seat or at the controls when the engine is running.
I do have a friend that works at a CN railroad maintenance shop. I'll be sure and tell him they have hundreds of malfunctioning locomotives.
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Originally Posted By: moribundman
Originally Posted By: jsharp
This issue with cars being unsafe if a driver isn't sitting in the seat is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. It's even sillier than the worry about gassing up with the engine running.
All sorts of machinery from lawnmowers to locomotives is left running without an operator at the controls. Yet how often to we hear about the machinery driving away on it's own?
Reading this thread makes me realize why anti-anxiety medication is so prescribed in this country. It appears a lot of people need it and in very large doses...
This post, coming from someone who lives "Outside smalltown, IL," makes somewhat sense. It does not make sense for those of us who live in metropolitain areas.
Anyway, in the city they probably won't turn the pump on if you keep the engine running. There are too many drive-offs as it is.
Maybe it's the cold weather here since I see it all the time in Chicago too.
Originally Posted By: jsharp
This issue with cars being unsafe if a driver isn't sitting in the seat is one of the silliest things I've ever heard. It's even sillier than the worry about gassing up with the engine running.
All sorts of machinery from lawnmowers to locomotives is left running without an operator at the controls. Yet how often to we hear about the machinery driving away on it's own?
Reading this thread makes me realize why anti-anxiety medication is so prescribed in this country. It appears a lot of people need it and in very large doses...
This post, coming from someone who lives "Outside smalltown, IL," makes somewhat sense. It does not make sense for those of us who live in metropolitain areas.
Anyway, in the city they probably won't turn the pump on if you keep the engine running. There are too many drive-offs as it is.
Maybe it's the cold weather here since I see it all the time in Chicago too.
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Reading this thread makes me realize why anti-anxiety medication is so prescribed in this country. It appears a lot of people need it and in very large doses...
It's the Psy-ops end of the pacification program.
I think BrianWC (?) kinda poked at this when someone asked about changing his factory fill out early.
"Better change it. It might have battery acid in it." (the insatiable need to FIND things to have anxiety over)
I used to worry that we'd become a nation of sheep. Of late I've decided that would be an improvement over a nation of frightened children.
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Reading this thread makes me realize why anti-anxiety medication is so prescribed in this country. It appears a lot of people need it and in very large doses...
It's the Psy-ops end of the pacification program.
I think BrianWC (?) kinda poked at this when someone asked about changing his factory fill out early.
"Better change it. It might have battery acid in it." (the insatiable need to FIND things to have anxiety over)
I used to worry that we'd become a nation of sheep. Of late I've decided that would be an improvement over a nation of frightened children.
I am going to just jump in!
I do not do, nor recommend this but. . .
It was shown on a TV show (discovery channel) that a lit cig can not ignite fuel. It is not hot enough.
That said, running your car is not a major issue. Theres really nothing to ignite the fuel going on externally on a running engine.
And, Starting a car uses more gas than idling it a while, so you may save gas, pending how long your pumping gas for.
I do not do, nor recommend this but. . .
It was shown on a TV show (discovery channel) that a lit cig can not ignite fuel. It is not hot enough.
That said, running your car is not a major issue. Theres really nothing to ignite the fuel going on externally on a running engine.
And, Starting a car uses more gas than idling it a while, so you may save gas, pending how long your pumping gas for.
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Why does almost everyone seem to assume that it's about fire danger?
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Starting a car uses more gas than idling it a while, so you may save gas, pending how long your pumping gas for.
Running a car more than 30 seconds requires more fuel than starting the engine. Unless you fuel up during at a NASCAR pit stop, I don't think your argument holds any water.
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Starting a car uses more gas than idling it a while, so you may save gas, pending how long your pumping gas for.
Running a car more than 30 seconds requires more fuel than starting the engine. Unless you fuel up during at a NASCAR pit stop, I don't think your argument holds any water.
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It's for the health of the guy and everyone at the station. Imagine if everyone left their car idling at a busy gas station. The customers are in and out, but the poor guy at the cashier's booth would have to breathe that all day.
I haven't seen a gas station with a centrally located cashier booth in many many years. It must be a Texas thing.
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Ive done this before when filling up on long highway drives.
In the diesels, I dont think twice... Id leave the engine idling to let the turbo cool down, might as well get other things going.
With gassers, I generally just run gently a bit extra, then turn the car off. If the gasser is a turbo, like my saab, Ill pull the gas cap and put my fuel additive in with the engine running... Still, in the name of wasting fuel at idle, since it takes longer than 30 seconds to fill up, I do turn the engine off eventually...
In the diesels, I dont think twice... Id leave the engine idling to let the turbo cool down, might as well get other things going.
With gassers, I generally just run gently a bit extra, then turn the car off. If the gasser is a turbo, like my saab, Ill pull the gas cap and put my fuel additive in with the engine running... Still, in the name of wasting fuel at idle, since it takes longer than 30 seconds to fill up, I do turn the engine off eventually...
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