Dodge Hellcat Oil - Valvoline, Castrol or Mobil 1 ??

[camrydriver111]

This was December 12th, 2010 at my dealer, based on the date on the photo:
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2011, M1 0W-40 was SN:

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Thread 'Mobil 1 0W40 SN VOA'

Sep 3, 2011

• BobFout
• Replies: 75
• Forum: Virgin Oil Analysis - PCMO/HDEO

Here's the thread about my dealer changing over, 2 years later in 2013:

Thread 'It finally happened......'

Dec 9, 2013

My Chrysler dealer switched from Mobil to SOPUS

They've got two boxes of M1 0w-40 + 5L loose that are sitting by the counter for me

They are now carrying the SRT 0w-40 and PU 5w-40 (the latter packaging still stating SM for those curious)

This means if I want it, I'll have to get it from CT now, unless they can special order it and still honour the price I was getting before, which I'm doubtful about.

• OVERKILL
• Replies: 31
• Forum: European and Import Motor Oils

The service manager at the time wasn't thrilled about the mandated changeover.

I'm not sure if it was a hard date, as to when they changed over? But I know my dealer had to make the change at the end of 2013 there, prior to that, they were a full Mobil shop, with M1 0W-40 as the service fill for all SRT vehicles.

What did they do with the M1 they had in stock? Did they dispose of it or were they allowed to use it up?

 

[wareze]

Castrol

 

[OVERKILL]

What did they do with the M1 they had in stock? Did they dispose of it or were they allowed to use it up?

They were allowed to use it.

 

[barkingspider]

If the car was mine, I would use any of the 5w40 you listed w 5k OCI

 

[wpod]

I used SuperTech 10w-40 blend and Pennzoil Euro 5w-40 for 5k miles in the wife's 4Runner and had both analyzed. SuperTech edged out the Pennzoil ever so slightly, Yea, surprised me too!

It really doesn't prove which oil is better. The Hell cat engine is a higher pressure engine.

 

[ka9mnx]

It really doesn't prove which oil is better. The Hell cat engine is a higher pressure engine.

Higher pressure what?

 

[SupremePossum]

Hellcat? I'd put Hennessy right there in the engine

 

[53' Stude]

m1 5w20

 

[kitchbow]

No problem with the cats running zinc levels over 1,000 ppm ?? Ram 1500 5.7l

 

[TiGeo]

I forgot to ask him what oil he was using in his Hellcat Jailbreak. It was nearly new so likely factory or equivalent. Shame but I'm sure it will be handled.

 

[OVERKILL]

No problem with the cats running zinc levels over 1,000 ppm ?? Ram 1500 5.7l

It's the phosphorous, not the zinc, and no, it's not an issue unless you are burning massive amounts of oil.

 

[Pablo]

Amsoil SS 0W-40

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-signature-series-0w-40-100-synthetic-motor-oil-azf/?zo=515729

 

[mbacfp]

Need oil for my 2017 Hellcat
Chrysler recommends MS 12633 PUP 0w-40

What I can find locally
Mobil 1 Euro 5w-40 (does not meet MS12633)
Castrol Edge Euro 5w-40
Valvoline Euro 5w-40

The Castrol is made from base III stock.

Does anyone know what the Valvoline base is ?

I've been running PUP 0W40 and finding deals on Amazon (unfortunately). Been doing UOAs switching back from NAPA and Blackstone. Here is a recent UOA from Blackstone. Running white filter (viper).

How many miles on yours? Have fun with it.

 

[kitchbow]

It's the phosphorous, not the zinc, and no, it's not an issue unless you are burning massive amounts of oil.

Thank you

 

[mbacfp]

In this particular order:

1. @High Performance Lubricants Super Car 0W-40
   • PAO + AN + POE + Other Secret Esters + Infineum Additive Package + Additional Top Treatment with MoDTC and Ca + Mg based detergents
2. Mobil 1 0W-40
   • PAO + GTL + AN + Infineum Additive Package
3. Quaker State Euro 5W-40
   • GTL + Group I Additive Package Carrier + Infineum Additive Package
4. Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40
   • GTL + Group I Additive Package Carrier + Infineum Additive Package

Castrol's 5W-40 base oil is Group III + HVHI, and Castrol 0W-40 is Group III + HVHI + PAO. Valvoline Euro 5W-40 is Group III + HVHI, and Valvoline 0W-40 is Group III + HVHI + PAO. It's nearly impossible to blend a 0W-40 without PAO.

Ultimately, all these will perform similarly. However, with HPL, you'll be able to go longer on the same fill while keeping your engine spotless. Mobil 1 would be my next choice since they are a leader in formulating and blending some of the best lubricants.

It's just a recommendation based on my personal preferences. I have used all the oils I listed except for Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40, and Valvoline 0W-40 & 5W-40.

I cannot find 0w40 Super Car on HPL's website? Would be be interested in using it, especially in the hot Texas summers.

 

[OVERKILL]

I cannot find 0w40 Super Car on HPL's website? Would be be interested in using it, especially in the hot Texas summers.

Here:

Super Car Engine Oil

High Performance Lubricants’ Super Car engine oil is a multi-synthetic high performance motor oil made with the best choices of additive chemistry. This series takes advantage of high quality PAO base oils delivering superb pour points as well as an advanced VI Improver that has a superior...

www.advlubrication.com

 

[mbacfp]

Here:

Super Car Engine Oil

High Performance Lubricants’ Super Car engine oil is a multi-synthetic high performance motor oil made with the best choices of additive chemistry. This series takes advantage of high quality PAO base oils delivering superb pour points as well as an advanced VI Improver that has a superior...

www.advlubrication.com

Thank you sir...I went to a different website. My apologies and thanks again.

 

[OVERKILL]

Thank you sir...I went to a different website. My apologies and thanks again.

No problem!

 

[PBR]

Amsoil SS 0W-40

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-signature-series-0w-40-100-synthetic-motor-oil-azf/?zo=515729

Sorry Pablo, and with all due respect, but in my experience using this oil in my 6.4 Hemi it sheered a A LOT in only 3,500 miles. It went from 14.8 cst @ 100*C (VOI) to 11.76 (my own UOA). I do work the engine hard (severe duty, IMO) but I expected this oil to perform much better than it did. Personally, I will never use this oil again, at least not in this engine.