Dealer add on prices.

Just to clarify that $28,000 figure is based on the payment amount multiplied by the payment term which is why I made my comment about not knowing anything about his financing details.

For all we know he could have a 400 credit score and he is dealing with one of those "we can get financing for anyone" type dealerships that charge 20+% interest as a requisite to obtain such financing.

Every single car deal I've ever done is unique and exclusive to the unique and exclusive circumstances, at the time of the deal, pertaining to that unique customer that I'm dealing with. If you just want to look at the price and the payments and try to deduce a conclusion from that alone, you are excluding at least 50% of the variables that reveal the reality of this unique and exclusive circumstance of a deal that exists at this time for this one customer.
ie. a Nissan dealer!
 
Chris,

Would a trailer receiver basket possibly be a solution for your Jeep hauling stuff?

I had a 2000 TJ, fully understand the challenges with moving stuff inside the Jeep. View attachment 283876
Agreed with this 100%

But if you’re buying something else, talk to @macarose, I’ll probably buy a car from him next year when I replace the Genesis. Consider this a warning Steven! 🤣

But if you do that, maybe private sale the truck and the Jeep, then you can put down like $10k-$12k.
 
I have been throwing around the idea of getting rid of my jeep and getting a small truck.

Saw a 2016 frontier last weekend so I inquired on it.

101k miles
No accidents
Regular oil changes reported to Carfax
$16xxx.xx

Salesman got back to me today.

They offered $500 for my jeep! Dealer is in Az so I'm guessing a jeep TJ would be easy to sell with all the off roading there.

After all the add ones and whatever else they came back with $380 per month for 72 months!

That $16k truck suddenly went to $28k! LOL

I mean I was born at night but not last night.
Jeeps gotta be worth 5-6 grand. Check kelly blue book to see for yourself
 
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I've learned some tricks along the way (we custom ordered a GM at the very end of May, literally 5/31). Dallas, always 15-23 vehicles on the lot, while where I live in Philly, 0-4, usually 0, no discounts showing online, while Dallas, $6,000.

I think my purchase is straightforward. List price. Discount. So far so good. Rebate--educator appreciation, i.e. wife, $500. Good.

Now start adding 3 things. Doc fee--$477--it's debateable if this is legit and if it can be negotiated away. Web says no, instead, go for $477 more discount. Whatever, I've seen higher. Add registration--about $200. Now when I bought a used car in NYS, the law stated they had to refund any excess, and they did. A refund check was included when they FedEx the plates. Lastly, sales tax. That's unavoidable. So my purchase had list, 2 deductions, and 3 additions. Nothing else, nothing that was inexplicable. No protection, no ceramic coating, no wheel locks (they actually come with the vehicle and on the order/build sheet (as is a spare tire lock), yet I've seen dealers add $125 for something that's already included, c'mon now, I get it's legal because nobody knows, but is it right?)

2 confirmed tricks. 1--captive financing. We all can go to Navy Fed and say hey I'm not paying 7% that's nuts, I can get 4.09%! That's all fine and dandy, when dealers won't accept a check from Navy, nor any other financial institution, and still give you the advertised price!

The other one that is bizarre. Our sales manager said in MD, the "final price" they show, has freight added, even though destination's already in MSRP. On our car it was $2195, it's now $2595. So they too show a big maybe $6k discount. What is odd about it, well let me show you. $8025 is a large discount. But 6.99% is very high.

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But to the $80,000, they add freight. Why? Destination is already included in MSRP. Freight on top of that?

So in reality, it's not an $8,025 discount. Freight happens to be one of the add ons items. What are the rest going to be? It's like buying from Will Ferrell
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