Cranking before starting the engine, and overusing the fan for cooling

[Javed]

Two quick questions

1. I press and hold brake and gas pedal, the engine cranks for like 5 seconds. Then I start my Jeep normally and it sounds so smooth and nice. What is the harm in doing that every single time?

2. I have a Tazer plugged in. Anytime my oil temperature goes above 215, I use the Tazer to run the fan at max speed, it drags my coolant temperarure from like 220 to 185 within 20 seconds, and then oil temperature creeps down to 200. What is the harm in doing that?

Thank you

 

[ctechbob]

Within reason, you want the oil temp to be a little hotter in order to drive off condensation. 215 isn't all that hot. I would leave it be.

As for the cranking thing, whatever floats your boat, probably isn't helping or hurting much in the long run. Might shorten the life of the starter(and alternator) a bit, but who knows.

 

[4WD]

I don’t know if those are “everyday needs” - but when my Jeep sits for a couple weeks - will do the flood thing …
My oil temps reach 225°F in sand with the fans coming on periodically …
Most any OTS oil is good for that …

 

[4WD]

Two quick questions

1. I press and hold brake and gas pedal, the engine cranks for like 5 seconds. Then I start my Jeep normally and it sounds so smooth and nice. What is the harm in doing that every single time?

2. I have a Tazer plugged in. Anytime my oil temperature goes above 215, I use the Tazer to run the fan at max speed, it drags my coolant temperarure from like 220 to 185 within 20 seconds, and then oil temperature creeps down to 200. What is the harm in doing that?

Thank you

Are you concerned with the dry start legend that led to the Baxter adapt ?

 

[Javed]

I don’t know if those are “everyday needs” - but when my Jeep sits for a couple weeks - will do the flood thing …
My oil temps reach 225°F in sand with the fans coming on periodically …
Most any OTS oil is good for that …

It is not the oil that worries me, I heard heat will eventually crack stuff in the engine bay.

 

[dishdude]

One of these days it's going to start at WOT when you try that two footed starting procedure.

 

[Javed]

Are you concerned with the dry start legend that led to the Baxter adapt ?

You think the dry start thing is a problem that doesn't exist?

 

[4WD]

It is not the oil that worries me, I heard heat will eventually crack stuff in the engine bay.

I don’t know what model you have - but there are aftermarket hood vents for the Rubicon that are supposed to release some upper heat …

 

[Javed]

I don’t know what model you have - but there are aftermarket hood vents for the Rubicon that are supposed to release some upper heat …

2024 Willys

 

[4WD]

You think the dry start thing is a problem that doesn't exist?

Well, it’s not bone dry - if you pull the filter after the motor is drained - some more oil comes out …
I’m nervous that Baxter unit adds stress to that subjective housing - but perhaps the remote version would actually reduce stress.

 

[Javed]

Well, it’s not bone dry - if you pull the filter after the motor is drained - some more oil comes out …
I’m nervous that Baxter unit adds stress to that subjective housing - but perhaps the remote version would actually reduce stress.

That Baxter thing is way too much, it even requires a different spin on filter and some plastic surgery on the engine.

 

[4WD]

That Baxter thing is way too much, it even requires a different spin on filter and some plastic surgery on the engine.

So far I’m not that tempted - I do run Fram Ultra’s for two 5K OCI’s and touch that housing less …

 

[Javed]

So far I’m not that tempted - I do run Fram Ultra’s for two 5K OCI’s and touch that housing less …

I wanted to do that but Jeep forum guys said it is like taking a shower but putting your dirty clothes back on. Old filter contaminates new oil they said

 

[4WD]

I wanted to do that but Jeep forum guys said it is like taking a shower but putting your dirty clothes back on. Old filter contaminates new oil they said

Kinda contradicting the fact that very little oil remains bcs of this filter …
I don’t get lubricant advice from Jeep forums - just here …

 

[4WD]

Post in thread 'Filter change every other oil change - anyone doing it?'

Nov 25, 2024

I normally buy oil filters that are rated for 15-20K. With those filters on my vehicles in signature -- I will run twice or 10K max. For a 10K filter -- change every OCI. My Wife and one of my best female friends both have Subarus whose oil filters are right on top of the engine. I change them out with 10K oil filters each 5K OCI. Everybodys situation is different in life.

• THORROMIG

 

[02SE]

I wanted to do that but Jeep forum guys said it is like taking a shower but putting your dirty clothes back on. Old filter contaminates new oil they said

You never get ALL of the old oil out during an oil change. The only way to do that is to disassemble the engine. The small amount of oil in an oil filter that is left in place for more than one oil change, isn't a concern.

Some OEM's recommend leaving the oil filter in place through multiple oil changes.

 

[Javed]

Post in thread 'Filter change every other oil change - anyone doing it?'

Nov 25, 2024

I normally buy oil filters that are rated for 15-20K. With those filters on my vehicles in signature -- I will run twice or 10K max. For a 10K filter -- change every OCI. My Wife and one of my best female friends both have Subarus whose oil filters are right on top of the engine. I change them out with 10K oil filters each 5K OCI. Everybodys situation is different in life.

• THORROMIG

See there one guy says he doesn't like re-using condoms

 

[4WD]

See there one guy says he doesn't like re-using condoms

Yeah, there are many goofy analogies on the subject - but running a 20k filter for 10k - and 2nd 5k starts with clean oil - Well, that’s not too radical …

 

[Javed]

Yeah, there are many goofy analogies on the subject - but running a 20k filter for 10k - and 2nd 5k starts with clean oil - Well, that’s not too radical …

Hey, if a little rock hits this offroad, will it come off?

 

[clinebarger]

2024 Willys

They should do a Kaiser & AMC edition as well


Back on subject....Starting the engine builds oil pressure faster than cranking.

Large single cooling fans rarely run at 100% duty cycle, You can tune a more aggressive cooling fan model without going scorched earth!