Confusing Porsche Oil Intervals

[Bailes1992]

That’s irrelevant

It’s a 2018 Porsche.

Warranty is irrelevant

Retention of residual value in a car with some of the best residuals in the car market is

And not having Dealer History will negatively affect the residuals of a Porsche.

You really don’t know there is a difference between a Porsche and a Toyota?

With your opinion you will be crying if you ever own a Porsche.

Don’t say you weren’t given the correct advise but were too arrogant to follow it.

I think you're the one being a bit arrogant here.

Here, in the UK, people put a ridiculous amount of faith in the stamped service book. However, in the US where they are legally allowed to self-maintain their cars without the warranty being compromised, they're not so fussed.

I've bought loads of cars with 'full main dealer service history' to find pollen filters that have never been changed, varnished up engines, wheels that have clearly never been removed and are stuck to hubs etc.

There is only one or two independents local to myself that I would ever trust with my cars. When it comes to dealers, other then Sytner BMW in Swansea, I've had issues with every single one.

 

[wings&wheels]

That’s irrelevant

It’s a 2018 Porsche.

Warranty is irrelevant

Retention of residual value in a car with some of the best residuals in the car market is

And not having Dealer History will negatively affect the residuals of a Porsche.

You really don’t know there is a difference between a Porsche and a Toyota?

With your opinion you will be crying if you ever own a Porsche.

Don’t say you weren’t given the correct advise but were too arrogant to follow it.

I've played w/ Porsches for a long time, 964 through our new Carrera T, and will tell you that Dealer service (for major, non DIY service) is generally not necessary to maintain value as long as there are thorough service records and one uses a respected independent. As noted, we are seeing the difference between local attitudes towards this; Europe vs. the US.

 

[Yuk]

And not having Dealer History will negatively affect the residuals of a Porsche.

You really don’t know there is a difference between a Porsche and a Toyota?

With your opinion you will be crying if you ever own a Porsche

Says the man who's never owned a Porsche.

Don’t say you weren’t given the correct advise but were too arrogant to follow it.

Arrogant? Do you understand the concept of projection?

Projection

Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his...

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What makes you think you are justified in being so dogmatic? Especially, when you have zero firsthand experience?

 

[BMWTurboDzl]

I think you're the one being a bit arrogant here.

Here, in the UK, people put a ridiculous amount of faith in the stamped service book. However, in the US where they are legally allowed to self-maintain their cars without the warranty being compromised, they're not so fussed.

I've bought loads of cars with 'full main dealer service history' to find pollen filters that have never been changed, varnished up engines, wheels that have clearly never been removed and are stuck to hubs etc.

There is only one or two independents local to myself that I would ever trust with my cars. When it comes to dealers, other then Sytner BMW in Swansea, I've had issues with every single one.

I wonder if the BMW dealership stamped this owners booklet? LOL.
@bigjl

https://www.reddit.com/r/BmwTech/s/mOMD2LndIZ

 

[svenson]

I wonder if the BMW dealership stamped this owners booklet? LOL.
@bigjl

https://www.reddit.com/r/BmwTech/s/mOMD2LndIZ

oh man! can you believe this almost happened to me in the official bmw dealership ? i went there for a good will repair and these days i wanted to change oil.so , i was bored to go to my usual service shop for the OCI and told the stealership to do that too.
the funny thing was that they put the plug but not fully in its place ,it was hanging there and as the tech in my next OCI told me dust an oil made a glue and hold it there fortunately for a year. i was very lucky!.imagine going for a big ride and somewhere on the highway all of your oil loose on the street all of a sudden.
yeah, dealership technicians or magicians more i say!

 

[Yuk]

I wonder if the BMW dealership stamped this owners booklet? LOL.
@bigjl

https://www.reddit.com/r/BmwTech/s/mOMD2LndIZ

On two different occasions I had the $250.00 belly pan come off of my Passat, after dealer oil changes. The first time was at 110 km/hr. and the rear wheels drove over the pan destroying it. I had to fight with the dealer to have them replace it out of their pockets.

The second time was much worse though. The pan fell off on a gravel road, two days after the change. The pan dislodged at the front and acted like a plow, driving gravel into the engine bay, over the hood and up onto the windshield.
The results were a destroyed pan, scratched and dented hood and cracked windshield. The dealer said I couldn't prove it was because of them and I had to pay for all of the damages.

I blame that VW/Porsche dealer for an air mass sensor the car didn't need, a sludged engine (They used bulk mineral oil, for the year of "free" oil changes, not the required synthetic) and snapped timing belt. I loved that Passat, but will never by a new VW again.

... The book always got stamped though. :-/

 

[svenson]

this summer. you know my adventure with red oil pressure light. after many fixes its still there.

but i went to a bmw dealership to replace injectors since there was a good will.this good will sometimes is a trap to create other damages to earn money.its being called MILKING !
anyway,they blamed the oil pump and bearing cells.i told them that this is not the cause of the problem and bcs. these parts are very costly , i told them to replace them but if red light comes back at screen they will pay me back.they reassured me that it wil be fixed.and guess what! i was right! and after a big fight,arguments and threat for a law,they pay me back.as i heard from other forums too,i must be the only one in the world that got money back from a bmw dealership .
NEVER AGAIN even if they payed me to go there.

 

[bigjl]

I wonder if the BMW dealership stamped this owners booklet? LOL.
@bigjl

https://www.reddit.com/r/BmwTech/s/mOMD2LndIZ

My forum name isn’t Bailes1992

And BMW haven’t used Service Books for a long time, just like JLR, Mercedes and Smart.

But just to humour you.

It’s a Reddit thread, widely know as the place for internet based rubbish and conspiracy theories where people F up and then never admit they were wrong

How many times does a sump plug leak a few drops of oil like that?

If somebody hits a bit of debris on the road and there is some damage to an oil cooler they are more likely to leave an oil trail like that.

Because it’s on Reddit doesn’t make it true

Just like when people suggest servicing their Porsche won’t affect resale on a Porsche Owners Forum…..

Just because it’s on the Internet doesn’t make it true.

If you look closely you will often find that the people talking about how they self service their Porsche bought it with Full Dealer History, as they wanted a decent one.

 

[bigjl]

Says the man who's never owned a Porsche.



Arrogant? Do you understand the concept of projection?

Projection

Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his...

www.psychologytoday.com

What makes you think you are justified in being so dogmatic? Especially, when you have zero firsthand experience?

You not picked up your ED Meds this week?

Do you understand the concept of Deflection?

Does it require Porsche Ownership to understand how residual values work?

Do you think Car Dealers who specialise in brands like Ferrari, Lamborghini or Porsche need to own one before they can buy and sell them?

Do you think you need to own a Toyota before you can work at a Toyota Dealership?

Do you need a Driving Licence to be an F1 driver?

 

[Indyxc]

If you are selling to another member of the Porsche Club you could be correct

But the again everybody in the Club could be negatively affecting their resale value.

They will be if they wish to trade in to a Porsche Dealer.

No sure why you mention a 918 specifically.

From my rudimentary knowledge of Porsche residuals the 911 is likely the one with the best resale in the UK

If there is ever a time when I buy a Porsche it will be full Dealer History or nothing

If they have full Porsche Dealer Service Hx and also have done 6 monthly oil and filter changes aswell then all the better.

Like other super high end brands, like Bugatti, Ferrari or Lamborghini for example, if it doesn’t have full Dealer History I won’t buy.

Would you have bought your car without Porsche History?

From your original post I have made the assumption that it was Approved Used from a Dealer?

Porsche owner here (GT3 RS). I looked at many Porsches with and without service records before I bough mine. There is not a large price variation between them. Certified Pre-Owned does have a price premium (~$5-10k) Likewise, in the USA the only service records it seems Porsche dealers will hand over is Carfax ones. The paperwork with previous owners names / addresses /etc, are not handed over due to privacy reasons.

 

[KrisZ]

I simply wouldn’t drive it, that’s the best protection if you want a car to be an “investment”.

 

[Vercingetorix]

I doubt paying inflated dealer prices for service will ever equal the price difference when using an independent. Paying 10k extra in dealer fees will not equal 10k extra in resale.

 

[svenson]

quite the opposite, it will be minus 10k!

 

[TiGeo]

Full dealer service doesn't mean what you think it does

 

[raaizin]

I think in Europe they do 2 year intervals but in US they do 1 year intervals. I do oil changes and other maintenance on both of mine (2014 911 and 2021 Cayman S) It costs me about 75 for the 911 and about 100 for the Cayman as it take C40 spec and more expensive than A40 in the 911. I probably saved easily $10,000 dollars in the 9 years I have owned my 911 I keep my receipts and am confident when the time comes to sell many would like to buy a car from a long term owner who has documented how OWN maintenance.

 

[svenson]

my point exactly! receipts! why a stamp is more official than a receipt? the potential buyer wants to know if its well maintained and that is proved with receipts. i do the same.

 

[KrisZ]

People worrying about the resale values.

 

[Yuk]

People worrying about the resale values.

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I don't worry about resale value, not because I'm rich, but because I drive my cars until there is nothing left to drive.
During 39 years of car ownership (I actually owned two cars before I had a driver's license, 16 in total and I still have the first one) I have never sold a car.