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PHILADELPHIA, July 29, 2008 –Today, the Chairman, President & CEO of CITGO Petroleum Corporation, Alejandro Granado and the Ambassador of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, Bernardo Alvarez came together at a local CITGO station to kick off the company’s new Café Venezuela program, along with Alida Moreno, President of Café Venezuela.

“This is a win-win initiative. Not only are we helping to improve the quality of life for small Venezuelan coffee growers, but we are also providing CITGO customers with a quality product they can be proud to purchase,” said CITGO Chairman, President and CEO, Alejandro Granado.

The Café Venezuela program will sell premium coffee at CITGO stations in Philadelphia, Boston and Chicago. The program’s goal is to promote sustainable development in rural Venezuela (where the coffee is grown) while providing quality coffee to CITGO patrons.

CITGO is working with Pennsylvania-based Golden Valley Farms Commodity Group to market the Café Venezuela coffee. The program will make the coffee available at two thousand convenience stores located at CITGO gas stations within the next two years. The first shipment of 7.45 tons of coffee has already arrived, while the second shipment is on its way.


“The government of Venezuela has stimulated the cooperative sector through education and job-training in recent years. This sector has risen from 910 cooperatives nationwide in 1999 to 228,004 by the end of 2007. In fact, more than 3,000 small and mid-size coffee growers produce Café Venezuela coffee. By dramatically improving the lives of these hard-working farmers, the Café Venezuela program is another example of Venezuela’s achievements in the construction of a new progressive model of development,” said Bernardo Alvarez, Ambassador to the United States for the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.

“On behalf of all the small coffee producers that work under the umbrella of Café Venezuela, I want to convey to you our collective pride stemming from the fact that our coffee is being sold at CITGO service stations here in the United States. By guaranteeing the placement of our product, this program will contribute to significantly improve the quality of life of our producers and their families,” said Alida Moreno, President of Café Venezuela.

John Sacharok, President of Golden Valley Farms said, “this new business endeavor, promoted by CITGO, will allow consumers the opportunity to enjoy one of the best quality coffee’s in the world, the Arabica Coffee from Venezuela.”
 
I'll continue to avoid CITGO like the plague. I won't even stop at the convenience stores associated with the fuel. Nothing Venezuelan for me, thanks. I'm sure tons of uninformed, ignorant citizens will flock to it like mad.

Perhaps they should be getting help from within from a certain dictator.
 
Originally Posted By: Steve S
The Arabs any nicer?


It's not about the Venezuelans but about their leadership. Besides, most of our fuel comes from Mexico or Canada. In this instance, I can choose not to buy from a Venezuelan source and I practice this right.
 
I don't need no CITGO coffee, I drink Dunkin Donuts Coffee. emmmm good. Besides, all the CITGO stations in my area have closed up shop.
 
I have been told that coffee is sometimes used to mask the smell of cocaine from dogs that have been trained to detect the presence of illegal drugs. Venezuela is known as a staging point for cocaine shipments prior to being exported to other countries, much like Panama was when Noriega was in power. I obviously cannot prove that there is a correlation between cocaine and Venezuelan coffee shipments, but it sure seems like a "convenient" business venture if my information on drug sniffing dogs is correct.
 
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The government of Venezuela has stimulated the cooperative sector through education and job-training in recent years.

How hard is it to grow coffee? I don't think the technique has changed much in the last 1000 years or so and it doesn't take a college degree. What a load.

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new progressive model of development

Nothing new about communism.
 
Well, most of your coffee and whatnot (banana republics) have most of their resources (fruit, sugar, coffee, marijuana, cocoa plants - and tropical fish) harvested by the poor in the provincial areas ..and brokered by the wealthy "barons". Think of how much work goes into bringing bananas to market in PA for $0.35/lb.

I'd say the best way to prevent drug trade (or inhibit it) is to make legitimate livings a little more profitable. Want to keep a rain forest intact? Buy products that come naturally from it.

..etc..etc..etc.

Most of the owners of many plantations have very familiar names somewhere up the line.
 
I have always been more of a liberal when it comes to legalizing what I call "soft" drugs, such as marijuana.

I find it somewhat hypocritical that I can buy a bottle of liquor, or even get drunk in a bar, but cannot legally purchase marijuana. Why not allow U.S. farmers to grow marijuana, which would be a profitable, well regulated crop that would generate tax revenue?

No more worries about what pesticides were sprayed on marijuana from 3rd world countries. Legalizing marijuana would take money out of the hands of the criminal element, basically curtailing the flow of money to countries and drug lords that seem to operate with impunity.

Let's face it, you don't see many news stories about folks killing each other over packs of cigarettes. Why would marijuana be any different? Speaking purely from the perspective of someone who gave up drinking 18+ years ago, I would definitely like to have the option to buy a pack of legal marijuana joints from my local corner store. Tax revenue from the sale of marijuana could be used to combat more dangerous drugs, like cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine.

When compared to prescription drugs and alcohol, marijuana is not that big of a deal in my opinion. Something is truly wrong when our kids can buy unregulated illegal drugs easier that they can talk someone into buying them booze.
 
By the way, I have not touched marijuana in 16 years, so I am not a pothead. I did, however, smoke it back in the day and unlike Clinton I did inhale. Drug tests may have removed illegal drugs from most workplaces, but one can still obtain a prescription for Xanax or Valium with ease. Drug tests do not count these types of drugs against someone as long as they have a valid prescription. It's all about the dollars....
 
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Originally Posted By: globey
I'll continue to avoid CITGO like the plague. I won't even stop at the convenience stores associated with the fuel. Nothing Venezuelan for me, thanks. I'm sure tons of uninformed, ignorant citizens will flock to it like mad.

Perhaps they should be getting help from within from a certain dictator.


A new Citgo station with Seven/Eleven close to my home had very few customers all day long and a 76 on opposite street almost always has more customers, even Citgo was selling at a discount of few cents a gallon. The sign Citgo was down and replaced with 7/11. At least in my area, a lot of people know and avoid Citgo if possible.
 
I usually purchase gasoline from Shell and my wife likes to buy hers from Chevron or Texaco. Most refineries end up purchasing a portion of their oil, and other feed-stocks, from spot market sources from time to time. Venezuela is the 5th largest oil exporting nation, and I believe they are also a member of OPEC. Though CITGO has clear ties to PDVSA, which is the Venezuelan state operated oil company, I can assure you that their oil ends up in many other refineries than those owned by CITGO. Thast being said, I don't buy from CITGO either.
 
Originally Posted By: Lyondellic
I usually purchase gasoline from Shell and my wife likes to buy hers from Chevron or Texaco. Most refineries end up purchasing a portion of their oil, and other feed-stocks, from spot market sources from time to time. Venezuela is the 5th largest oil exporting nation, and I believe they are also a member of OPEC. Though CITGO has clear ties to PDVSA, which is the Venezuelan state operated oil company, I can assure you that their oil ends up in many other refineries than those owned by CITGO. Thast being said, I don't buy from CITGO either.


And I'm not naive to think some of their oil doesn't end up in other refineries, but by not buying CITGO I can at least control what I know. Clear ties...more like crystal clear ties. Sponsorship to the VZ Indy chick racer, TV commercials supporting Chavez/CITGO and the American people, propaganda about commercials and how much fuel was given to people after Katrina for heating, etc. He uses CITGO for his mouthpiece to the American people.
 
I buy citgo whenever possible due to a 4% rewards credit card.

I could care less about the alleged politics behind the brand. If Citgo is a "mouthpiece" well hey we support free speech and it would be hypocritical to not allow free thought and speech outside our borders. As a commodity China would buy citgo oil anyway if I didn't. I bet many are envious of Venezuela having an oil surplus that leads to cocky leadership and wished they lived somewhere so prosperous.

The only way to "stick it to Chavez" would be to buy less oil from anyone and everyone. The idea that one can keep the SUV as long as they pick which pump brands are more "American" is asinine.
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino


The only way to "stick it to Chavez" would be to buy less oil from anyone and everyone. The idea that one can keep the SUV as long as they pick which pump brands are more "American" is asinine.


Who said buying according to what is more "American"? Please, don't add to my post or imply anything. I simply do not want to support a dictatorship. A dictatorship that despises the U.S. and has let the world know how bad we are. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of things wrong with our country, but that doesn't mean I have to support a government that detrimental to our way of living. Sorry, that's my view. What's asinine is taking no political view or not seeing how this all relates to world politics. I'm not saying other products don't have VZ oil in them, but I do know CITGO does and I choose not to support them.
 
By putting "American" in quotes I was not quoting anyone in this thread; rather an idea held by some that US-based gas brands are somehow more ideologically pure.

Even if it's refined within our borders and profits can be shared with stockholders, and taxes paid here, I'll see our consumption as a net loss until (if) we manage to get our imports down to zero and manage with domestic resources.
 
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