chrysler 41 TE/a604 trans and atf +4

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ok, ive got a 99 chrysler minivan that has the dreaded 4 speed electronically controlled transmission, 41TE. this is the transmission that has given chrysler headaches for several years. i guess one of the issues was that they left an imprint on the dipstick for dexron usage, when the proper fluid was atf +3. even after all of the atf +3 stuff cleared up, this transmission was not a bastion of reliability. atf +4 is out now and is recommended for all chrysler vehicles and is factory fill in all chrysler vehicles-EXCEPT MINIVANS WITH 41TE TRANSMISSION 1999 AND OLDER-THATS ME.

now, i have had no transmission issues after 61K but the atf +4 fluid is allegedly superior in terms of temp, oxidation, longevity,etc and has been rumored to be synthetic-at $5.99 a qt it better be. the friction modification package, however, is rumored to be identical. obviously, even considering price, i have interest in possibly using this-especially if it can in any way extend the life of the 41TE ticking timebomb. now, the $99,000 answer is just exactly has changed in this transmission between 1999 and 2000 that it is used in one but not the other?????? i can find nothing. so, why would i not be able to use this. BTW i am waiting an answer from chrysler's crack customer service website and not holding my breath. anyone with knowledge on these transmissions or fluid and why 1999 was the magical cutoff year and only for minivans???
as an aside, i found a site listing a recall on this badboy for faulty seals on the fuel rail. i still have not gotten notice since it began in 2/02-surprise. i have had no problems and van-actually like it and it has actually been reliable. just missing a little peace of mind toting 2 kids around in a potential firebox.
 
looks like everyone here is just about as interested as Daimler Chrysler. Their response:
Dear p,
Thank you for contacting DaimlerChrysler regarding this question.
Unfortunately, the technical information you request is not available
via this web site.
I suggest that you contact your local DaimlerChrysler dealer for
assistance.
Have good day.

Sincerely,

Dan
Senior Staff Representative
DaimlerChrysler Customer Assistance Center

The dealers are the ones giving the inconsistent info. Rumored that some do not even carry the 7176 atf +3 there anymore.
 
Do a google search for Allpar. That is the Chryco superforum. You will find all of your answers there.

Personally, I am getting rid of my Chryco car as soon as I have the money to get a nice Nissan...
 
I purchased a new Dodge GC 3.3 in 1992. I changed the fluid and filter with atf+3 every 25,000 miles and I still lost the transmission at $60,000 miles.
I got Chrysler to pay half the bill. I mailed them all the receipts for the work done.


Because they were nice to me I gave them one more chance. In 2000 I purchased another new GC 3.3. I NOW CHANGE THE FLUID AND FILTER EVERY 10,000 MILES!! I only use ATF+4. I now have 60,000 miles on it and no problems thus far. YES I am crossing my fingers.

(PS>> I also carry an extra belt tensioner in the glove box at all time).

I still love these vans!!!
 
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