What years are these cars supposed to replicate?
Challenger - 1970 ?
Camaro - 1969 ?
Mustang - 1968 ?
Challenger - 1970 ?
Camaro - 1969 ?
Mustang - 1968 ?
Challenger, Camaro, and Mustang
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Challenger- 1970 to 74 sounds about right.
Camaro- First gen 1967 to 69
Mustang- probably 1969-70.
Camaro- First gen 1967 to 69
Mustang- probably 1969-70.
Not sure what you mean Merk...
If you're asking how the current models compare to the originals, I'd agree the Challnger is somewhat retro but the new Mustang and current Gen5 Camaro look nothing like their original models-good thing in my view.
I own a 2014 high end Camaro V8 convertible (with mods of course!) and it is a wonderful car.
If you're asking how the current models compare to the originals, I'd agree the Challnger is somewhat retro but the new Mustang and current Gen5 Camaro look nothing like their original models-good thing in my view.
I own a 2014 high end Camaro V8 convertible (with mods of course!) and it is a wonderful car.
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Compare the 1971 Challenger:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2771_Dodge_Challenger_Convertible_(Auto_classique_VAQ_St-Lambert_%2712).jpg
To the 2015 Challenger Classic:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=2015...selectedIndex=5
Pretty close, I would say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2771_Dodge_Challenger_Convertible_(Auto_classique_VAQ_St-Lambert_%2712).jpg
To the 2015 Challenger Classic:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=2015...selectedIndex=5
Pretty close, I would say.
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I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
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Originally Posted By: HerrStig
I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
Ford was late to the IRS party. It just appeared on the newest Stangs. GM adopted it way back when this new Camaro body debuted.
And I remember when port injection came out. There were tons of folks who were scared to death of it...
I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
Ford was late to the IRS party. It just appeared on the newest Stangs. GM adopted it way back when this new Camaro body debuted.
And I remember when port injection came out. There were tons of folks who were scared to death of it...
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
Ford was late to the IRS party. It just appeared on the newest Stangs. GM adopted it way back when this new Camaro body debuted.
And I remember when port injection came out. There were tons of folks who were scared to death of it...
I'm sticking to the carburetor and solid axle.
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
Ford was late to the IRS party. It just appeared on the newest Stangs. GM adopted it way back when this new Camaro body debuted.
And I remember when port injection came out. There were tons of folks who were scared to death of it...
I'm sticking to the carburetor and solid axle.
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Originally Posted By: HerrStig
I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
Mustang has had port injection since the mid 80's, what are you talking about? Also, regarding the IRS, it was used on the Cobra... for years. It has finally made it mainstream but certainly the car didn't "need it". The solid diff was reliable and great for a drag car. That's why the Termi often saw an solid diff swap.
I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
Mustang has had port injection since the mid 80's, what are you talking about? Also, regarding the IRS, it was used on the Cobra... for years. It has finally made it mainstream but certainly the car didn't "need it". The solid diff was reliable and great for a drag car. That's why the Termi often saw an solid diff swap.
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
Ford was late to the IRS party. It just appeared on the newest Stangs. GM adopted it way back when this new Camaro body debuted.
And I remember when port injection came out. There were tons of folks who were scared to death of it...
That's incorrect. IRS was factory equipment on the SN95 body style "new edge" Cobra when it debuted in the late 90's and was also fitted to the Termi. The "Plain Jane" Mustang didn't get it, but it was available if you opted for it.
Port injection, Ford was sequential for 1986 with EEC-IV, the Bosch/Intel/Ford venture. Arguably the best fuel injection system of the era due to aftermarket support (TwEECer, chips....etc).
One of my favourite eras
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
Ford was late to the IRS party. It just appeared on the newest Stangs. GM adopted it way back when this new Camaro body debuted.
And I remember when port injection came out. There were tons of folks who were scared to death of it...
That's incorrect. IRS was factory equipment on the SN95 body style "new edge" Cobra when it debuted in the late 90's and was also fitted to the Termi. The "Plain Jane" Mustang didn't get it, but it was available if you opted for it.
Port injection, Ford was sequential for 1986 with EEC-IV, the Bosch/Intel/Ford venture. Arguably the best fuel injection system of the era due to aftermarket support (TwEECer, chips....etc).
One of my favourite eras
My 1997 Cougar has IRS.
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
Ford was late to the IRS party. It just appeared on the newest Stangs. GM adopted it way back when this new Camaro body debuted.
And I remember when port injection came out. There were tons of folks who were scared to death of it...
That's incorrect. IRS was factory equipment on the SN95 body style "new edge" Cobra when it debuted in the late 90's and was also fitted to the Termi. The "Plain Jane" Mustang didn't get it, but it was available if you opted for it.
Port injection, Ford was sequential for 1986 with EEC-IV, the Bosch/Intel/Ford venture. Arguably the best fuel injection system of the era due to aftermarket support (TwEECer, chips....etc).
One of my favourite eras
But come on, neither of the Stangs you mention were real high volume production cars. That's what I was speaking to, the fact that a regular showroom floor Stang has not had IRS until this last generation...
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
Ford was late to the IRS party. It just appeared on the newest Stangs. GM adopted it way back when this new Camaro body debuted.
And I remember when port injection came out. There were tons of folks who were scared to death of it...
That's incorrect. IRS was factory equipment on the SN95 body style "new edge" Cobra when it debuted in the late 90's and was also fitted to the Termi. The "Plain Jane" Mustang didn't get it, but it was available if you opted for it.
Port injection, Ford was sequential for 1986 with EEC-IV, the Bosch/Intel/Ford venture. Arguably the best fuel injection system of the era due to aftermarket support (TwEECer, chips....etc).
One of my favourite eras
But come on, neither of the Stangs you mention were real high volume production cars. That's what I was speaking to, the fact that a regular showroom floor Stang has not had IRS until this last generation...
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
Ford was late to the IRS party. It just appeared on the newest Stangs. GM adopted it way back when this new Camaro body debuted.
And I remember when port injection came out. There were tons of folks who were scared to death of it...
That's incorrect. IRS was factory equipment on the SN95 body style "new edge" Cobra when it debuted in the late 90's and was also fitted to the Termi. The "Plain Jane" Mustang didn't get it, but it was available if you opted for it.
Port injection, Ford was sequential for 1986 with EEC-IV, the Bosch/Intel/Ford venture. Arguably the best fuel injection system of the era due to aftermarket support (TwEECer, chips....etc).
One of my favourite eras
But come on, neither of the Stangs you mention were real high volume production cars. That's what I was speaking to, the fact that a regular showroom floor Stang has not had IRS until this last generation...
Only the top of the heap Mustang had it. So like only offering it on the Z/28 Camaro would be a decent comparison
It was available, Ford just simply didn't use it. With the S197, it disappeared and then came back on the new iteration across the board.
It's a weird way they've done it, no denying that. But then this is also the same company that basically put the Cobra intake and GT-40 heads on the Explorer so....
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
I find it interesting that after all those years telling buyers "you don't need it" GM and Ford went IRS on the "pony cars". For some years, according to them, you "didn't need" port injection, either.
Ford was late to the IRS party. It just appeared on the newest Stangs. GM adopted it way back when this new Camaro body debuted.
And I remember when port injection came out. There were tons of folks who were scared to death of it...
That's incorrect. IRS was factory equipment on the SN95 body style "new edge" Cobra when it debuted in the late 90's and was also fitted to the Termi. The "Plain Jane" Mustang didn't get it, but it was available if you opted for it.
Port injection, Ford was sequential for 1986 with EEC-IV, the Bosch/Intel/Ford venture. Arguably the best fuel injection system of the era due to aftermarket support (TwEECer, chips....etc).
One of my favourite eras
But come on, neither of the Stangs you mention were real high volume production cars. That's what I was speaking to, the fact that a regular showroom floor Stang has not had IRS until this last generation...
Only the top of the heap Mustang had it. So like only offering it on the Z/28 Camaro would be a decent comparison
It's a weird way they've done it, no denying that. But then this is also the same company that basically put the Cobra intake and GT-40 heads on the Explorer so....
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
It's a weird way they've done it, no denying that. But then this is also the same company that basically put the Cobra intake and GT-40 heads on the Explorer so....
Hey, I love the newest Stang. I feel it may be the best one ever. The tension in that car is palpable, fantastic design. Add in improved performance and I'm drooling a bit.
Great time to like performance cars!
It's a weird way they've done it, no denying that. But then this is also the same company that basically put the Cobra intake and GT-40 heads on the Explorer so....
Hey, I love the newest Stang. I feel it may be the best one ever. The tension in that car is palpable, fantastic design. Add in improved performance and I'm drooling a bit.
Great time to like performance cars!
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Hey, I love the newest Stang. I feel it may be the best one ever. The tension in that car is palpable, fantastic design. Add in improved performance and I'm drooling a bit.
Great time to like performance cars!
I agree about the performance car era, but I can't get excited about the new Mustang. I want to like it, but it just doesn't excite me like the 2012-2013 Boss 302 or the 2012-up Challenger SRT 392.
Different strokes, I guess...
Hey, I love the newest Stang. I feel it may be the best one ever. The tension in that car is palpable, fantastic design. Add in improved performance and I'm drooling a bit.
Great time to like performance cars!
I agree about the performance car era, but I can't get excited about the new Mustang. I want to like it, but it just doesn't excite me like the 2012-2013 Boss 302 or the 2012-up Challenger SRT 392.
Different strokes, I guess...
I drove two new 2015 Mustang GT's and while they were nice, they didn't impress me enough to want to trade in my 2014 Mustang GT for them. I still like how the 14 looks over the 15.
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Originally Posted By: wtd
I still like how the 14 looks over the 15.
Wayne
^^This. I can't convince myself to like the new Mustangs. They look like if a Fusion and a Maverick had a kid. HATE the front end,Fusion all the way. They no longer look like a muscle car,but more like an economy car.
I still like how the 14 looks over the 15.
Wayne
^^This. I can't convince myself to like the new Mustangs. They look like if a Fusion and a Maverick had a kid. HATE the front end,Fusion all the way. They no longer look like a muscle car,but more like an economy car.
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