You may be right. I was going off old information.I thought original GC had some amount of Ketjenlube ester?
I will say that most BMW engines I’ve seen torn down from the Castrol era are pretty clean as long as OCI is followed. Especially the engines running 10W-60 TWS. Rod bearings spin way before varnish is an issue.
Castrol Edge 0W30 has BMW LL01 again!
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It was just something that I remember seeing on an old post from maybe Bobby Davro? I don't know that it's confirmed fact either.
ok, i asked the price for TPT euro at dealership .there is a new design bottle and costs 33 euros 1 lt !!!! 29 if buy on sales,23 per litre if you change oils at their service. i thought they were not serious but they meant it!! is it made from gold?
after market there is a shortage yet. so i don't know the price. they still have the old design bottle , if someone finds a jug.
bmw said that this year will discuss a new contract with an oil company.i don't know if its still shell or changed to a new one.
Oil is so expensive in Europe. TPT 0w30 is around $12 per liter in the US.ok, i asked the price for TPT euro at dealership .there is a new design bottle and costs 33 euros 1 lt !!!! 29 if buy on sales,23 per litre if you change oils at their service. i thought they were not serious but they meant it!! is it made from gold?
after market there is a shortage yet. so i don't know the price. they still have the old design bottle , if someone finds a jug.
bmw said that this year will discuss a new contract with an oil company.i don't know if its still shell or changed to a new one.
maybe this is one of the reasons why longlife 40.000km or 25.000 intervals marketing idea as it is now in europe , found a place in owners heart and some of the serious problems in engines started. and then they accuse the bad oil brand or search for the right viscosity.
Typical oil change cost much in dealership, from 200-400€ in Finland. But if you buy at store your own oil its much cheaper. But still far away from US pricing
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New VOA from a six pack of Castrol Edge 0w30 A3/B4 on Amazon
Current specs from manufacturer
Current specs from manufacturer
in line with old packaging.
KV100 in VOA was always around 11.6-11.8.
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More likely a problem with the $30 analysis.
Does Longlife-01 (based on ACEA A3/B4) have a TBN requirement or is it “report only”?
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33 euros per liter is so prestigious, I don’t even think I feel worthy of such an oil. A person who uses that likely bathes in foie grasok, i asked the price for TPT euro at dealership .there is a new design bottle and costs 33 euros 1 lt !!!! 29 if buy on sales,23 per litre if you change oils at their service. i thought they were not serious but they meant it!! is it made from gold?
after market there is a shortage yet. so i don't know the price. they still have the old design bottle , if someone finds a jug.
bmw said that this year will discuss a new contract with an oil company.i don't know if its still shell or changed to a new one.
The Lubrizol chart posted yesterday by Critic in the Amsoil Euro oil thread states minimum TBN of 10 for LL-01. I was going by that.
Blackstone said a few years ago that methodology wouldn't provide the most accurate VOA.
It has been updated numerous times.
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I assume this is excellent oil for my 2017 BMW 340i (w/B58 motor) for spirited non-track daily driving?
Are there any other 0w30 LL01 motor oils that are worth considering for spirited non-track daily driving?
Are there any other 0w30 LL01 motor oils that are worth considering for spirited non-track daily driving?
Within the same approval any differences will be minor and unimportant. Especially in this case where the HT/HS is relevant.
I don’t know where you live but unless you’re starting the engine at temperatures below -35 or so a 0W winter rating is going to be meaningless.
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Northern michigan, so cold temps can indeed get negative.
Are there any other 0w30 LL01 oils?
Are there any other 0w30 LL01 oils?
Not that I know about. But again it’s not relevant with the approval, if you really need the winter rating you could use a 0W-40. It won’t make any difference.
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