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As long as all the dirty oil goes through the media and not leak past the end caps, then the functionality is the same. There are many ways to seal off the ends of the media pleats, either with end caps, or not.Is there any functional difference between cartridge filters with the plastic type end caps or whatever they are called, and ones that do not have them, like a Toyota OEM cartridge? if not, what purpose do the plastic ends serve?
What filter? Maybe they somehow didn't glue the end of the pleats together, QA issue perhaps ?Either type can be good, or not-so-good---including one endcapless model I've seen that apparently has nothing to prevent oil bypassing between pleats at the ends.
Every cartridge filter I've seen that has no end caps has been quite rigid.Either type can be good, or not-so-good---including one endcapless model I've seen that apparently has nothing to prevent oil bypassing between pleats at the ends.
Well-made endcapless ones have several advantages over the plastic endcap type. They allow larger media surface area within the same space, assuming same media thickness. Being less rigid, they don't have to be as near geometrically perfect to seal well at the ends. They're probably less expensive to manufacture in large numbers. They pollute less if incinerated after use.
Several cartridge filters that use end caps have thick o-ring gaskets on the ends, and these create a seal that practically guarantees the oil doesn't leak past the filter element.As long as all the dirty oil goes through the media and not leak past the end caps, then the functionality is the same. There are many ways to seal off the ends of the media pleats, either with end caps, or not.
Sure, but that's not the leak path I'm talking about. I'm talking about the seal at the pleat ends, which the end caps also provide. On filters with no end caps, each individual pleat end needs to be sealed with glue.Several cartridge filters that use end caps have thick o-ring gaskets on the ends, and these create a seal that practically guarantees the oil doesn't leak past the filter element.
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I've seen those where the pleats on one end are glued but not the other, so which way does the filter go in that instance? with the glued pleats facing the oil filter cap or toward the inside?Sure, but that's not the leak path I'm talking about. I'm talking about the seal at the pleat ends, which the end caps also provide. On filters with no end caps, each individual pleat end needs to be sealed with glue.
Certainly, a reason to prefer a symmetrical filter. Or for the manufacturer to put a "This End Up" note on the filter if there's a need for it to face a certain way.I've seen those where the pleats on one end are glued but not the other, so which way does the filter go in that instance? with the glued pleats facing the oil filter cap or toward the inside?
Sounds like a flaw without seeing one. Reason I say that is becaue oil will try to go through the filter to get to the center tube anywhere the oil is touching the outside of the media and end caps.I've seen those where the pleats on one end are glued but not the other, so which way does the filter go in that instance? with the glued pleats facing the oil filter cap or toward the inside?
Yeah, but some (including all I've seen for my car) simply have hard flat plastic ends that, under axial force from a spring, are supposed to seal against rigid flat steel surfaces in the filter cavity and cap. If the ends of a filter aren't perfectly flat and parallel, or if the filter geometry is skewed, guess what happens.Several cartridge filters that use end caps have thick o-ring gaskets on the ends, and these create a seal that practically guarantees the oil doesn't leak past the filter element.
To add ... there are quite a few spin-on filters that just have metal-on-metal (with no other sealing material) between the bypass valve and the end cap.Yeah, but some (including all I've seen for my car) simply have hard flat plastic ends that, under axial force from a spring, are supposed to seal against rigid flat steel surfaces in the filter cavity and cap. If the ends of a filter aren't perfectly flat and parallel, or if the filter geometry is skewed, guess what happens.
And that's one reason I prefer the TRD filter in my Camry.Yeah, but some (including all I've seen for my car) simply have hard flat plastic ends that, under axial force from a spring, are supposed to seal against rigid flat steel surfaces in the filter cavity and cap. If the ends of a filter aren't perfectly flat and parallel, or if the filter geometry is skewed, guess what happens.
I only use the TRD oil filter on my 17 Tundra as well.And that's one reason I prefer the TRD filter in my Camry.