Capri and Icon beat Snap on

Warranty matters for “on the job” tools, but honestly, the only tools that I have broken are the ones that I have abused.

When I can get set of Stahwille combination wrenches for 1/3 the price of Snappy, it makes the decision easy.

I have several sets of ratcheting wrenches, mostly Williams, and I don’t put a ton of torque on them. I’ll break something loose with a good “ringmaulschlussel” and then use the ratcheting wrench.

But then, I’m not working for flat rate and under time pressure, either.
 
I have done a bunch of projects with Taiwan and the quality can be absolutely superb...
I had a USA made light fixture that was very large and it was $800 nothing fancy at all.

I wasn't real impressed with it. I ordered the same size and design from a Taiwan maker for $149...
The quality was far better... a beautiful fixture... that was in 2012..

Brought in many lathes in the day and Taiwanese over Chinese made was $800 on a $5k lathe...no comparison at all... and Chinese shipping was so bad the difference ended up being $300 only for the Taiwanese lathe.
 
Honestly I haven’t been all that impressed with Snap-on. I do like their ratchets and combination wrenches but I got most of them on sale. I think I paid $498 3 years ago for wrenches 10-19 and then 20-24 on sale as a bundle. I mean don’t get me wrong they are nice tools but often not worth the premium especially with a dealer who isn’t that great. I was going to get the stubby wrenches from Snap-on till I was quoted $460 by my guy for a set of 10-19mm I was like uh never mind. I don’t use them enough to justify that I just need a 17mm mainly for steering racks on Tacomas. Going to Harbor Freight and getting the Icon instead or possibly order the Tekton 6-19 set for around $50 I think it was.

I do love my Snap-on stuff especially the hard handles on their ratchets and screwdrivers which I’ve heard are now discontinued. I hate to hear that because the handle does make a difference at least to me. I personally haven’t tried their ratcheting wrenches but until my Gearwrench and the one or two Klutch ones I have fail I’m not upgrading them because they work.
 
I have no problem with SnapOn getting "beat" -- indeed I have the Snappy reversibles and just don't care for them for reasons I can't articulate -- but I don't understand ranking backdrag when new.

This is like saying a leather chair, baseball mitt or hiking boots suck because they're not that comfortable when brand new.
 
Warranty matters for “on the job” tools, but honestly, the only tools that I have broken are the ones that I have abused.

When I can get set of Stahwille combination wrenches for 1/3 the price of Snappy, it makes the decision easy.

I have several sets of ratcheting wrenches, mostly Williams, and I don’t put a ton of torque on them. I’ll break something loose with a good “ringmaulschlussel” and then use the ratcheting wrench.

But then, I’m not working for flat rate and under time pressure, either.

Speed of replacement matters, I would say. if the snap-on tool truck comes every few weeks, it could be a while without the tool. In that case if you can exchange a broken tool during lunch time breaks, that would be the better option. Unless they need replacing every other day of course.
 
Speed of replacement matters, I would say. if the snap-on tool truck comes every few weeks, it could be a while without the tool. In that case if you can exchange a broken tool during lunch time breaks, that would be the better option. Unless they need replacing every other day of course.
Right after graduating college, while I was waiting to start aviation officer candidate school with the Navy, I worked at a junkyard, taking cars apart. It was great. I didn’t have to put them back together, and I didn’t have to fix them, just take them apart.

The snap on truck showed up every Friday, and the other two mechanics that were there used to walk onto the truck, and fork over a large part of their paycheck to the snap on guy, buying all sorts of glorious, wonderful, beautiful tools.

I get the convenience of a tool truck that stops by my workplace. I get the attraction of buying on time, and back then, it was 0% interest, just a loan from the tool truck guy. I get the utility of weekly on the job service. It was great.

But I was saving money to drive down to Pensacola, and I didn’t have a place for all those tools.

If the snap on guy stopped by my shop every week while I was there, I would probably own a lot more snap on tools. There are two Snapon dealers in the complex where I have my shop, and I’m kind of glad I haven’t reached out to meet them!
 
Warranty matters for “on the job” tools
That's the only saving grace for the tool-truck brands anymore, at least it's what fans argue or emphasize. Thing is, and it is mentioned in later posts, how often is the tool-truck around ? Certainly not daily, sometimes not even weekly. Worst case, call the dealer and see where he/she is and possibly drive to them. As a mechanic, you'd better have back-up tools (as I'm sure they do - probably HF !! 😂). At least with ICON and HF opening more and more stores, the mechanic can run to the store or send a helper. In the old days, the same applied with Craftsman and Sears (I suspect Craftsman are not relevant nowadays with professionals).
 
Snap on is nothing more than marketing. People will always pay a higher price thinking it must mean quality.
Not totally true. As someone who wrenched 35 years on school buses for a living, I will tell you from experience that it is no fun fighting inferior tools. In a lot of cases the current crop of Taiwan tools is pretty good for most things. There are times though where "pretty good" doesn't cut it. I currently use an Icon 1/4 sae/metric socket set at the mower shop daily. The ratchet was garbage after a few months and while the replacement was easy, the new ratchet is the same short lived crap. I splurged for a Koken, it is not much better. Very loose and sloppy on the flex and ratchet mechanism after a year of use. Very disappointing but it still performs better than the Icon.It will be replaced with a Snap On in the near future. I tried imported air tools in the bus garage, they worked OK at first, but the inferior materials used made for accelerated wear and failure. If one is serious about wrenching, sometimes you have to step up.
 
We have several sets of Snap-on wrenches and ratchets where I work, that belong to my employer. I use them occasionally and they're OK but nothing special as compared to the Gearwrench tools that we also have.
 
Warranty matters for “on the job” tools, but honestly, the only tools that I have broken are the ones that I have abused.
I just had to warranty a HF Pittsburg ratchet that I busted. I just walked in, handed to the worker, and they went out and grabbed a new one off the shelf. No paperwork, no receipts, barely any questions, sub 2 minute warranty replacement. It took me longer to drive round trip down to the store (roughly 14 minutes total).
 
I have a variety of wrenches from expensive to cheap, but only a few Snap On pliers. I only came close to breaking a Williams 12mm reversible flex head, but it somehow unlocked the reverse mechanism via divine intervention. The one set TTC heaped praise on was the anti slip Icons, I bought a set but was immediately disappointed because how it tore bolt heads to pieces. My favorite is still an older Tekton set I bought around 2014ish.
 
Did we watch the same video?

The Snap-on is clearly the nicest wrench, and made in the USA. It bad the best form factor and lowest back drag. It exceeded the standard and failed due to abuse.
I would expect a lot more for $560 bones. I use a few of them from Stahlwille, Hazet, Capri and Icon and had no issues with any of them, the Icon are long pattern so being stronger is a plus and 6 lb.in back drag is more than acceptable. Frank (Demarpaint) has a new high 100 tooth Snap on ratchet and has had more trouble with that thing and only gets a song and dance, he told me it feels like a breaker bar has less back drag. :ROFLMAO:
I have been using Snap on since 36T was standard and they were excellent as is the dual 80.
 
I would expect a lot more for $560 bones. I use a few of them from Stahlwille, Hazet, Capri and Icon and had no issues with any of them, the Icon are long pattern so being stronger is a plus and 6 lb.in back drag is more than acceptable. Frank (Demarpaint) has a new high 100 tooth Snap on ratchet and has had more trouble with that thing and only gets a song and dance, he told me it feels like a breaker bar has less back drag. :ROFLMAO:
I have been using Snap on since 36T was standard and they were excellent as is the dual 80.
LOL I'm still working on getting it resolved, hopefully this week. Wish me luck. I will say their CS has been good thus far, although I still have a problem, and got a few songs and dances along the way. IMO they released the product too soon. I will update if/when it gets resolved.
 
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