Or out of nowhere, you'll spring an oil leak you didn't have prior. Almost ran my truck out of oil on one PA trip. The head gasket just decided to start hemorrhaging oil. Luckily I smelled the oil and shut it off and checked next time I got gas.
Can you leave the engine running the whole long trip? Even to gas up?
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Or out of nowhere, you'll spring an oil leak you didn't have prior. Almost ran my truck out of oil on one PA trip. The head gasket just decided to start hemorrhaging oil. Luckily I smelled the oil and shut it off and checked next time I got gas.
It's safe unless you want to keep all your toes, and avoid stents or saphenous vein grafts to your coronaries.
Your EVAP system does a valve lineup where under certain scenarios it's doing a tank purge, sucking "vapors" from the top of the tank through the intake with the car running. If you fuel it while it's running, you can send liquid fuel down those lines, flooding out the engine or at least making it run bad.
My Prius gets "refuel ready" when I open the gas lid. One time I was in line for gas, preemptively opened the lid, then restarted the engine to pull forward in line. It didn't take fuel! It must do some sort of valve lineup that excludes fuel from the filler neck when it's not "refuel ready." Go figure.
My Prius gets "refuel ready" when I open the gas lid. One time I was in line for gas, preemptively opened the lid, then restarted the engine to pull forward in line. It didn't take fuel! It must do some sort of valve lineup that excludes fuel from the filler neck when it's not "refuel ready." Go figure.
If the OP didn’t have so many replies, I would swear he was a troll.
Oregon for the most part, although I think they modified their rules to allow for self-serve in some lower population counties under certain conditions. I think hiring enough workers was the issue there.
Apparently there's a greater chance of static when the engine is running. But then again I see things that aren't recommended (with regards to static generation) such as getting back in a car during refueling and going back and touching the handle.
I'll admit up front to not reading 4 pages worth. Why in the world would you not turn it off? What is the point of leaving it running other than to waste gasoline and waste money and pollute the environment that little bit extra? Really curious what in the world this thought process is.️ Since we are a whole 7 days away from Manteno Illinois... and this thread could be for any car, any time... Can I leave the car running the whole time? Do I have to turn it off to gas up which I will probably have to do about 3 times, top up before leaving NJ because of lower fuel cost to save $$ then again in Ohio if possible and from there should be OK to somewhere in Illinois and that part of journey.. Is there really a need to turn the car off?
I estimate fill-ups take about 5 minutes at a time, usually in Ohio I use the restroom, MAYBE buy a snack, and then gas up the car, putting in about 14-15 gallons takes about a whopping 2 minutes, since most don't know the pump rate is supposed to be 7 gallons a minute. Some aren't but most are. (Some run slower some try to go super fast.)
I don't think I'll set an EVAP code but... Seriously. Is there a need to turn the car off? Or only when at destination . Any car, really..
I do it all the time, especially when traveling with the camper. Usually there is a dog in the truck and between the wife and I there's always a person with it. Plus, the little 2.3L Ecoboost is working hard when we're towing, so leaving it running keeps the fluids flowing. We usually gas and go, food and restroom is attached to the truck if needed.
must be a six point uh oh.
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SwampSurvivor said:
must be a six point uh oh.
except that the 6.0L is a diesel, and he stated he stopped for gas ...
My truck will idle about 11 hours today, same as yesterday, probably 12-13hrs tomorrow. What's the big deal?
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At one point there was also concerns of cellphones somehow inducing sparks that could ignite a fuel vapor fire.
At pumps with vapor recovery nozzles I don’t even note much by the way of vapors anymore.
In the rare occasion that I am refueling at a location where I immediately pull off and am at the pump, I will leave it running. That’s fuel stops like on the NJTP, NY Thruway, Ohio/Indiana toll roads etc. But it’s entirely because of heat soak, even if it’s only a sustained ~60kW or so to cruise at typical interstate speeds.
The idea that there is some wear saved on these activities is folly.
yeah, but he's listing a 2001 F350... just thought that would be the mostly likely head gasket blower... on second thought that would have still been a 7.3 though..which weren't notorious for blowing head gaskets.
I light up a cigar every time I fill up. Stand by the nozzle. Still do it.
No issues.
That’s makes it OK…I mean, as long as I flick the ashes away from the vapors, there won’t be any problems…because nothing has happened to me, that makes it safe.
What do the stats look like? Open Flame near gas vapors or leaving your car on?
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Rubber tires contain a large amount of carbon (~22% which is why they are black), and are not insulating the car from ground. The positive charge is generated on you as you slide out of the seat, and discharged to the negatively charged car when you reach for it again.
Some old 90s BMW owners might remember discovering that even merely leaving the ignition in the "on" position (engine off) during refueling would cause the instrument cluster to get confused and throw the fuel gauge out of sync and have it return a false (empty/dead) reading. Which required pulling the relevant fuse to reboot it and get the gauge working again.
With saddle/butterfly-style tanks, and dual level senders, displaying an accurate fuel level requires some smarts, but it doesn't account for unexpected beahvior on the part of the drivers.
With saddle/butterfly-style tanks, and dual level senders, displaying an accurate fuel level requires some smarts, but it doesn't account for unexpected beahvior on the part of the drivers.
Ya but we are up to 4 pages talking about this...
For what’s it’s worth, I have always left my car running during refueling. 20 plus years. I have four cars , so I’m at a gas station about 2-4 times per week. I never let my cars get under half a tank so I’m frequently at a gas station.
The purpose of leaving the car on is to keep the AC running (live in south Florida, it’s HOT) and to put less wear and tear on the starter motor. I figure that over a 5 year period I probably save at least 400-500 starts per car by not turning my car off at the gas station.
I don’t think it’s an inherently dangerous practice, plus, I always ground the car to the fuel nozzle to prevent any sparks before I begin fueling, which is a good practice anyways.
The purpose of leaving the car on is to keep the AC running (live in south Florida, it’s HOT) and to put less wear and tear on the starter motor. I figure that over a 5 year period I probably save at least 400-500 starts per car by not turning my car off at the gas station.
I don’t think it’s an inherently dangerous practice, plus, I always ground the car to the fuel nozzle to prevent any sparks before I begin fueling, which is a good practice anyways.
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Good deal. No signs, mean not dangerous. I guess all the spitting everyone does everywhere is ok!
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