Not sure how oil is "wasted" by changing more often. Seems to me that a lot of it gets recycled, unless the oil change places choose to burn it as waste oil.
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Originally Posted By: otis24
Not sure how oil is "wasted" by changing more often. Seems to me that a lot of it gets recycled, unless the oil change places choose to burn it as waste oil.
I've often wondered where it winds up at. They're not recycling all of it I don't think, so where does the rest of it go?
Not sure how oil is "wasted" by changing more often. Seems to me that a lot of it gets recycled, unless the oil change places choose to burn it as waste oil.
I've often wondered where it winds up at. They're not recycling all of it I don't think, so where does the rest of it go?
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we do not have power trains we have powertrains
Plug in a 2002 Corvette comes with an OLM) and see what number you get
(I'll save ya some time 3000 miles!)
Maybe Jerry Hirsch should get a clue before he opens his yap
we do not have power trains we have powertrains
Plug in a 2002 Corvette comes with an OLM) and see what number you get
(I'll save ya some time 3000 miles!)
Maybe Jerry Hirsch should get a clue before he opens his yap
I take mine to the county dump site. They have a 500 gal(my estimate) tank. When it is full, the county highway department pumps it out and uses it to heat the shop in winter. The state furnished the heater.
I would estimate that it would need emptying about every two weeks in spring and fall. This is an agricultural area. Somehow I doubt that even half of the used oil is recycled.
John
W.TN
I would estimate that it would need emptying about every two weeks in spring and fall. This is an agricultural area. Somehow I doubt that even half of the used oil is recycled.
John
W.TN
And thats why I left California.... their stupid laws. I go 5000-7500 in the Tacoma and whatever in CRV since it has an OLM.
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
I've often wondered where it winds up at. They're not recycling all of it I don't think, so where does the rest of it go?
Exactly. The article speaks about how much oil would be saved if everyone followed their owner's manual, rather than the 3,000 mile interval. What would the savings be if all oil changes were properly recycled? I'm assuming that lube shops already do a good job with respect to that.
I've often wondered where it winds up at. They're not recycling all of it I don't think, so where does the rest of it go?
Exactly. The article speaks about how much oil would be saved if everyone followed their owner's manual, rather than the 3,000 mile interval. What would the savings be if all oil changes were properly recycled? I'm assuming that lube shops already do a good job with respect to that.
Originally Posted By: Garak
Exactly. The article speaks about how much oil would be saved if everyone followed their owner's manual, rather than the 3,000 mile interval. What would the savings be if all oil changes were properly recycled? I'm assuming that lube shops already do a good job with respect to that.
After the truck goes to Walmart to pump out the used oil from their collection tank,
then where does the oil go? I'm wondering if any of it winds up back in the ground...
Exactly. The article speaks about how much oil would be saved if everyone followed their owner's manual, rather than the 3,000 mile interval. What would the savings be if all oil changes were properly recycled? I'm assuming that lube shops already do a good job with respect to that.
After the truck goes to Walmart to pump out the used oil from their collection tank,
then where does the oil go? I'm wondering if any of it winds up back in the ground...
Originally Posted By: Merkava_4
After the truck goes to Walmart to pump out the used oil from their collection tank,
then where does the oil go? I'm wondering if any of it winds up back in the ground...
One would hope it all gets appropriately recycled. Hope, however, is the operative word here.
After the truck goes to Walmart to pump out the used oil from their collection tank,
then where does the oil go? I'm wondering if any of it winds up back in the ground...
One would hope it all gets appropriately recycled. Hope, however, is the operative word here.
Before I retired, the Safety Kleen truck came to the plant and pumped out all the used machine tool coolant. I don't know if it was recycled or not. I do know that it was a water soluble oil compound. I believe they also pick up used automobile oil.
John
W.TN
John
W.TN
Originally Posted By: ARB1977
And thats why I left California.... their stupid laws.
I go 5000-7500 in the Tacoma and whatever in CRV since it has an OLM.
There's no law... There's simply suggesting that people do exactly what you're doing?
That the fact that anyone is complaining about this demonstrates that ideology seems to supersede common sense for some people.
And thats why I left California.... their stupid laws.
I go 5000-7500 in the Tacoma and whatever in CRV since it has an OLM.
There's no law... There's simply suggesting that people do exactly what you're doing?
That the fact that anyone is complaining about this demonstrates that ideology seems to supersede common sense for some people.
It's amusing to see some people's irrational hatred of CA. This is not a law. It's what people have been saying here for years, without a lot of controversy.
But when someone from CA says the exact same thing, all of a sudden they're Nazis!
Says MUCH more about the willful ignorance of some around here than what is actually a common-sense idea in CA.
But when someone from CA says the exact same thing, all of a sudden they're Nazis!
Says MUCH more about the willful ignorance of some around here than what is actually a common-sense idea in CA.
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
I love the quote " it made sense when we had cast iron blocks and cast iron pistons". I don't know how that has anything to do with the OCI. Besides many engines still use cast iron blocks but cast iron pistons haven't been used for about 100 years!
I thought the same thing myself, seemed like a typical "AOL Cars" article. Read an article in a major Florida paper recently in which the writer said "Global Warming" was going to cause coastal city streets to flood "because water expands when it is heated" Where do they GET these journalist idiots? Heat it enough and it EVAPORATES. Melt ice and the volume is SMALLER.
I love the quote " it made sense when we had cast iron blocks and cast iron pistons". I don't know how that has anything to do with the OCI. Besides many engines still use cast iron blocks but cast iron pistons haven't been used for about 100 years!
I thought the same thing myself, seemed like a typical "AOL Cars" article. Read an article in a major Florida paper recently in which the writer said "Global Warming" was going to cause coastal city streets to flood "because water expands when it is heated" Where do they GET these journalist idiots? Heat it enough and it EVAPORATES. Melt ice and the volume is SMALLER.
Originally Posted By: antonmnster
It's amusing to see some people's irrational hatred of CA. This is not a law. It's what people have been saying here for years, without a lot of controversy.
But when someone from CA says the exact same thing, all of a sudden they're Nazis!
Says MUCH more about the willful ignorance of some around here than what is actually a common-sense idea in CA.
Like telling kids they can't wear T shirts with AMerican flags on them because it might "offend" Mexican American students. Yeah sure.
It's amusing to see some people's irrational hatred of CA. This is not a law. It's what people have been saying here for years, without a lot of controversy.
But when someone from CA says the exact same thing, all of a sudden they're Nazis!
Says MUCH more about the willful ignorance of some around here than what is actually a common-sense idea in CA.
Like telling kids they can't wear T shirts with AMerican flags on them because it might "offend" Mexican American students. Yeah sure.
But if California drivers cut way back on oil changes, what will keep the storm drains lubricated?
Isn't it just great to have a government so concerned about citizens that it advises people when to change their car oil & what is the best light bulb to use & what foods we should and should not eat!
Isn't it just great to have a government so concerned about citizens that it advises people when to change their car oil & what is the best light bulb to use & what foods we should and should not eat!
Even checkyournumber.org suggests a 3k OCI for my car, which is good or you'll have a sludged up nightmare.
checkyournumber.org recommends 3000 miles for my car too.
Originally Posted By: HerrStig
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
I love the quote " it made sense when we had cast iron blocks and cast iron pistons". I don't know how that has anything to do with the OCI. Besides many engines still use cast iron blocks but cast iron pistons haven't been used for about 100 years!
I thought the same thing myself, seemed like a typical "AOL Cars" article. Read an article in a major Florida paper recently in which the writer said "Global Warming" was going to cause coastal city streets to flood "because water expands when it is heated" Where do they GET these journalist idiots? Heat it enough and it EVAPORATES. Melt ice and the volume is SMALLER.
Ice does float, though... The interplay of physical constants is quite complex around the world. The biggest catastrophic potential is the disruption of salinity differences that drive major ocean currents. If salinity(and temp) changes disrupt the gulf stream, Europe will be a big popsicle. Valuable land will become worthless and vice versa, depending on what kind of flow gets reestablished....
On the oil side of coin, the article was amusing to say the least.
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
I love the quote " it made sense when we had cast iron blocks and cast iron pistons". I don't know how that has anything to do with the OCI. Besides many engines still use cast iron blocks but cast iron pistons haven't been used for about 100 years!
I thought the same thing myself, seemed like a typical "AOL Cars" article. Read an article in a major Florida paper recently in which the writer said "Global Warming" was going to cause coastal city streets to flood "because water expands when it is heated" Where do they GET these journalist idiots? Heat it enough and it EVAPORATES. Melt ice and the volume is SMALLER.
Ice does float, though... The interplay of physical constants is quite complex around the world. The biggest catastrophic potential is the disruption of salinity differences that drive major ocean currents. If salinity(and temp) changes disrupt the gulf stream, Europe will be a big popsicle. Valuable land will become worthless and vice versa, depending on what kind of flow gets reestablished....
On the oil side of coin, the article was amusing to say the least.
Ok. So will California now go after shampoo manufacturers whose packaging says "Lather, Rinse, Repeat" ? I mean, I stopped repeating years ago, but I've got a teenager that must be following instructions to the letter. ;-)
I dont see the big deal. MANY people as we know are very ignorant about oil (as we know). these people are also very stubborn. If the normal BITOGer told them 3k OCIs are excessive they will tell you to screw off. people think if they dont do 3k OCIs their car will instantly blow up.
well people who know better know that 3k OCIs are wasteful and in order to makes those ignorant people believe it is to have the government tell them.
these people go with the main stream, they are sheeple, the only reason why they do 3k OCIs is because thats what everyone says to do, they have no information other then "everybody does it, thats why" so if the government says so then it must be true. these people cant be interested enough to look up why, they just need to be told by someone who matters to them. So if oil change places and people "who matter" tell them 3k is too soon they will eventually turn around. for no reason other then being told to by someone who matters.
yeah, alot of vehicles still need 3k OCIs, my jeep even asks for 3k OCIs as a severe duty service. Oil change places should simply have every cars OCI recommendations on a computer server just like autozone has information. then the person should answer aq simple 5 question survey to further determine their service type needed. (like asking if they do short trips ect...)
well people who know better know that 3k OCIs are wasteful and in order to makes those ignorant people believe it is to have the government tell them.
these people go with the main stream, they are sheeple, the only reason why they do 3k OCIs is because thats what everyone says to do, they have no information other then "everybody does it, thats why" so if the government says so then it must be true. these people cant be interested enough to look up why, they just need to be told by someone who matters to them. So if oil change places and people "who matter" tell them 3k is too soon they will eventually turn around. for no reason other then being told to by someone who matters.
yeah, alot of vehicles still need 3k OCIs, my jeep even asks for 3k OCIs as a severe duty service. Oil change places should simply have every cars OCI recommendations on a computer server just like autozone has information. then the person should answer aq simple 5 question survey to further determine their service type needed. (like asking if they do short trips ect...)
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That the fact that anyone is complaining about this demonstrates that ideology seems to supersede common sense for some people.
I have a few questions.
I'm sure no one denies that CA is one of if not the most cash strapped state in the US.
What is their motivation to initiate this campaign and fund it?
How many people really change their oil at 3K aside from some Bitog members and OCD owners?
In my experience servicing cars daily for over 35 yrs not many, its hard enough to get owners to change the oil at even close to manufacturers suggested intervals, especially severe service.
It would appear to me that they are targeting a minority of owners.
To me this is possibly the promotion of a ideology or agenda on their part that seems to supersede common sense.
Looking at Government at every level in any country with both eyes open and questioning the motivations for their actions is not an ideology its common sense.
Whenever something like this comes from a Government agency the bovine poo radar is activated, all to often info campaigns have led to a future mad grab for the cash in taxpayer pockets.
That the fact that anyone is complaining about this demonstrates that ideology seems to supersede common sense for some people.
I have a few questions.
I'm sure no one denies that CA is one of if not the most cash strapped state in the US.
What is their motivation to initiate this campaign and fund it?
How many people really change their oil at 3K aside from some Bitog members and OCD owners?
In my experience servicing cars daily for over 35 yrs not many, its hard enough to get owners to change the oil at even close to manufacturers suggested intervals, especially severe service.
It would appear to me that they are targeting a minority of owners.
To me this is possibly the promotion of a ideology or agenda on their part that seems to supersede common sense.
Looking at Government at every level in any country with both eyes open and questioning the motivations for their actions is not an ideology its common sense.
Whenever something like this comes from a Government agency the bovine poo radar is activated, all to often info campaigns have led to a future mad grab for the cash in taxpayer pockets.
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