I find the yellows perfect for a street car, they aren't really that much different in day to day feel until you need to use them repeatedly and then you know you have a better/higher heat friction compound.
Brake pad stopping power! Wagner ThermoQuiet Semi-metallic
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I’m getting sold on trying them when replacement time rolls around again.
Do you have any experience in comparing the red vs yellow compounds ? Sounds like they (the yellowstuff pads) might be marginally harder on the rotors.
Thank you,
Z
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Yes, I've run both back to back on the same vehicle. Reds to me were "meh" - expensive street pads that really didn't hold up well to mountain hooning. Red lasted 20 min on the track...then I wa sout the rest of that day. Sourced Yellows and the next day was fine...handled mild track use on street tires. I'd never buy reds again...just no real point as I see it vs. yellows.
Mo
Can you describe the rotor wear with the yellowstuff pads as being better, or worse, than expected ?
Z
Can you describe the rotor wear with the yellowstuff pads as being better, or worse, than expected ?
Z
I'll call it "normal". Not seen any increased wear that I noted.
JHZR2
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Good to know. I may want to try these on my 96 Ram CTD.
My experience with pads and rotor wear is:
Don't get the pads up to normal operating temp ad you get excessive disc wear.
Get the pads beyond normal operating temps and you get excessive pad wear.
Don't get the pads up to normal operating temp ad you get excessive disc wear.
Get the pads beyond normal operating temps and you get excessive pad wear.
I would say about "on-par" as expected. The rotor wear (and overall performance) was about as equal as running Ferodo DS2500s or Performance Friction PF01s.
Are these made in America!? Or china?After going through a good number of sub-standard brake pads for my Jaguar, I finally found a quality set of "non race" pads with high friction ratings that actually perform. The Wagner ThermoQuiet Semi-Metallic pads with the "Wagner OE25™ zero-copper friction formulation". They are accurately G-G friction rated. I've got to say, they are exactly what I was looking for. I tried Centric Ceramic pads, and a few other brands of Ceramic. In an emergency, I also purchased some "duralast" semi-metallics from AutoZone that were FF rated. None were able to slow the car well or even engage the ABS at speed, as they did not produce adequate friction. These Wagner pads flat out ROCK. They bite smoothly, fast and hard, with very modest pedal pressure, and are fantastic hauling the car down from high speed. In an age of ubiquitous, underperforming Chinese brake pads with fancy names, these Wagner's stand apart as a quality product.
If you are looking for a commercially available brake pad with the highest friction levels, these make a good choice. I'll put them on my F150's next.
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pad compound as well as the rotors "iron" effects brake performance + like tires its NOT one size fits all!! had EBC yellows with EBC smooth rotors on my 11 Fronty SV 4 WD good breaking + some dust but lasted just over 20 thou + was replaced by NRS semi mrtallic pads with a galvanized backing plate + patented hook mechanical pad retention that i believe EBC also uses. NRS pads are as good or better than EBC yellows + a bit less dust + a similar higher cost as well. SavageGeese.com notes on his fine print series some but not all brake pads dust is very corrosive requiring constant cleaning to protect your alloys. he has a couple of interesting informative vids on braking pads + rotors!
Neither, they seem to be made in Europe. If I remember correctly, I think they were made in Poland
Using this criteria to shop for brake pads is about as futile as using the UTQG ratings to shop for tires.
I have used OE "FF" rated pads that stop better and having a better friction profile (by temp) than aftermarket "GG" pads.
Wagner Thermoquiets are good for cars and trucks that don't haul much but don't use them if you're pulling a camper because they won't last long. My BIL used them on his Expedition that gets used for heavy towing and they wore out fast.
Driv owns the Ferodo and Jurid brands in Europe - Ferodo pads are made in England or Spain. Wagner tends to get European application pads from Ferodo - big plus is they meet ECE 90 by default.
Galfer(ITT) makes friction in Romania or Hungary - Poland makes sense due to lower labor costs.