Bottom of the (Pure) barrel?
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Contaminates in a brand new jug of oil? This stuff is so extremely processed and purified.
Every 2-3 months I shake all my stored fluids: motor oil, gear oil, transmission, power steering, brake, coolant, touch-up paint, etc.
Takes about 10 minutes and my arms are sore afterward LOL.
Every 2-3 months I shake all my stored fluids: motor oil, gear oil, transmission, power steering, brake, coolant, touch-up paint, etc.
Takes about 10 minutes and my arms are sore afterward LOL.
Shake the jug before adding it. Imagine what is on the bottom of bulk 55 gallon drums... lol
I called Shell once inquiring about the sediments on the bottom and the nice lady on the phone said that its usually from the pipes they use which are older. She was definitive in that it was not the additive package falling out of suspension. This was a little over 2 years ago.
I've seen this on bottom of ROTELLA T4 conventional oil jugs. It is what it is
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Originally Posted by deven
I called Shell once inquiring about the sediments on the bottom and the nice lady on the phone said that its usually from the pipes they use which are older. She was definitive in that it was not the additive package falling out of suspension. This was a little over 2 years ago.
That sounds a lot worse to me than additives coming out of suspension...can't they filter it before bottling?
I called Shell once inquiring about the sediments on the bottom and the nice lady on the phone said that its usually from the pipes they use which are older. She was definitive in that it was not the additive package falling out of suspension. This was a little over 2 years ago.
That sounds a lot worse to me than additives coming out of suspension...can't they filter it before bottling?
You think they would? To me, that doesn't sound right? Why would they process the oil and leave contaminants in there?
Originally Posted by Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted by deven
I called Shell once inquiring about the sediments on the bottom and the nice lady on the phone said that its usually from the pipes they use which are older. She was definitive in that it was not the additive package falling out of suspension. This was a little over 2 years ago.
That sounds a lot worse to me than additives coming out of suspension...can't they filter it before bottling?
She said they do but there is no 100% capture rate.
Originally Posted by deven
I called Shell once inquiring about the sediments on the bottom and the nice lady on the phone said that its usually from the pipes they use which are older. She was definitive in that it was not the additive package falling out of suspension. This was a little over 2 years ago.
That sounds a lot worse to me than additives coming out of suspension...can't they filter it before bottling?
She said they do but there is no 100% capture rate.
If this was the case, I would think that certain batches would be recalled or removed from shelves until this was addressed...
Originally Posted by deven
I called Shell once inquiring about the sediments on the bottom and the nice lady on the phone said that its usually from the pipes they use which are older. She was definitive in that it was not the additive package falling out of suspension. This was a little over 2 years ago.
lol. With the amount of "sediment" in each of these jugs those pipes would last about twelve seconds before perforating.
I would bet my house this is something in the add pack falling out of suspension.
I called Shell once inquiring about the sediments on the bottom and the nice lady on the phone said that its usually from the pipes they use which are older. She was definitive in that it was not the additive package falling out of suspension. This was a little over 2 years ago.
lol. With the amount of "sediment" in each of these jugs those pipes would last about twelve seconds before perforating.
I would bet my house this is something in the add pack falling out of suspension.
Originally Posted by Jimmy_Russells
Originally Posted by deven
I called Shell once inquiring about the sediments on the bottom and the nice lady on the phone said that its usually from the pipes they use which are older. She was definitive in that it was not the additive package falling out of suspension. This was a little over 2 years ago.
lol. With the amount of "sediment" in each of these jugs those pipes would last about twelve seconds before perforating.
I would bet my house this is something in the add pack falling out of suspension.
Maybe you can call them and see what they say. Maybe the nice lady was trying to pull a fast one on me. As you can tell I use Royal Purple so its easy to pull a fast one on me!!!
Originally Posted by deven
I called Shell once inquiring about the sediments on the bottom and the nice lady on the phone said that its usually from the pipes they use which are older. She was definitive in that it was not the additive package falling out of suspension. This was a little over 2 years ago.
lol. With the amount of "sediment" in each of these jugs those pipes would last about twelve seconds before perforating.
I would bet my house this is something in the add pack falling out of suspension.
Maybe you can call them and see what they say. Maybe the nice lady was trying to pull a fast one on me. As you can tell I use Royal Purple so its easy to pull a fast one on me!!!
Looks like I should pour my new oil through a paint strainer!
I actually think the sediment theory holds more weight than the additive theory, and I'll explain why.
Your typical oil filter is efficient down to 20-30 microns. That is so small that you can't see it unassisted. The fact that you can see this would indicate to me that it's not additives, because why in the world would any oil manufacturer put additives in their oil that would just get filtered out? As for why Shell doesn't ffilter it, I'm sure they do, but they don't view larger particles as a problem given as your oil filter will capture all of them before they reach their engine. The real problem would be any particles so small you can't see them, those would make it past the filter.
Your typical oil filter is efficient down to 20-30 microns. That is so small that you can't see it unassisted. The fact that you can see this would indicate to me that it's not additives, because why in the world would any oil manufacturer put additives in their oil that would just get filtered out? As for why Shell doesn't ffilter it, I'm sure they do, but they don't view larger particles as a problem given as your oil filter will capture all of them before they reach their engine. The real problem would be any particles so small you can't see them, those would make it past the filter.
Originally Posted by littlehulkster
I actually think the sediment theory holds more weight than the additive theory, and I'll explain why.
Your typical oil filter is efficient down to 20-30 microns. That is so small that you can't see it unassisted. The fact that you can see this would indicate to me that it's not additives, because why in the world would any oil manufacturer put additives in their oil that would just get filtered out? As for why Shell doesn't ffilter it, I'm sure they do, but they don't view larger particles as a problem given as your oil filter will capture all of them before they reach their engine. The real problem would be any particles so small you can't see them, those would make it past the filter.
I'm not a chemist but I would guess it is something that is precipitating out of the solution and then redissolves when shaken. Of course that is just a guess, but I find it hard to believe SOPUS would have a bunch on junk in new oil.
I actually think the sediment theory holds more weight than the additive theory, and I'll explain why.
Your typical oil filter is efficient down to 20-30 microns. That is so small that you can't see it unassisted. The fact that you can see this would indicate to me that it's not additives, because why in the world would any oil manufacturer put additives in their oil that would just get filtered out? As for why Shell doesn't ffilter it, I'm sure they do, but they don't view larger particles as a problem given as your oil filter will capture all of them before they reach their engine. The real problem would be any particles so small you can't see them, those would make it past the filter.
I'm not a chemist but I would guess it is something that is precipitating out of the solution and then redissolves when shaken. Of course that is just a guess, but I find it hard to believe SOPUS would have a bunch on junk in new oil.
Originally Posted by littlehulkster
Your typical oil filter is efficient down to 20-30 microns. That is so small that you can't see it unassisted. The fact that you can see this would indicate to me that it's not additives, because why in the world would any oil manufacturer put additives in their oil that would just get filtered out?
Wrong... you can't see one green marble from space,
but if the entire Grand Canyon was filled with green marbles, you could definitely observe that.
Your typical oil filter is efficient down to 20-30 microns. That is so small that you can't see it unassisted. The fact that you can see this would indicate to me that it's not additives, because why in the world would any oil manufacturer put additives in their oil that would just get filtered out?
Wrong... you can't see one green marble from space,
but if the entire Grand Canyon was filled with green marbles, you could definitely observe that.
Originally Posted by Linctex
Originally Posted by littlehulkster
Your typical oil filter is efficient down to 20-30 microns. That is so small that you can't see it unassisted. The fact that you can see this would indicate to me that it's not additives, because why in the world would any oil manufacturer put additives in their oil that would just get filtered out?
Wrong... you can't see one green marble from space,
but if the entire Grand Canyon was filled with green marbles, you could definitely observe that.
+1 ... I was going to say something similar.
Originally Posted by littlehulkster
Your typical oil filter is efficient down to 20-30 microns. That is so small that you can't see it unassisted. The fact that you can see this would indicate to me that it's not additives, because why in the world would any oil manufacturer put additives in their oil that would just get filtered out?
Wrong... you can't see one green marble from space,
but if the entire Grand Canyon was filled with green marbles, you could definitely observe that.
+1 ... I was going to say something similar.
I thought it was SOJ but since he reiterated a more recent post without mentioning, maybe it was Molakule- one of them posited it could also be that the initial mix was overbased with whatever was coming out of suspension. SOJ's moly post kinda hangs it's hat on the same thing... basically, Pennzoil is cramming more add pack in than the oil can keep in suspension for whatever reason (temps, chemical reasons, etc). I always shake my jugs and dump it all in, because I believe that over time, the hot oil splashing down into the sump and getting sucked right back up will agitate enough to keep a majority of it in suspension. It will go right thru the filter without issue, and will not harm your engine if it does.
Some of y'all need to go back a couple years and read the educational threads on oil... some of these posts have me SMH for an hour at the terrible myths some people let themselves believe... like a new oil filter "slowing down" the flow out of the oil pump. 🤦â€â™‚ï¸
Some of y'all need to go back a couple years and read the educational threads on oil... some of these posts have me SMH for an hour at the terrible myths some people let themselves believe... like a new oil filter "slowing down" the flow out of the oil pump. 🤦â€â™‚ï¸
Originally Posted by SubieRubyRoo
Some of y'all need to go back a couple years and read the educational threads on oil... some of these posts have me SMH for an hour at the terrible myths some people let themselves believe... like a new oil filter "slowing down" the flow out of the oil pump. 🤦â€â™‚ï¸
Yep ... still are some SMH moments going on around here. I can't decide if it's entertaining or just sad.
Some of y'all need to go back a couple years and read the educational threads on oil... some of these posts have me SMH for an hour at the terrible myths some people let themselves believe... like a new oil filter "slowing down" the flow out of the oil pump. 🤦â€â™‚ï¸
Yep ... still are some SMH moments going on around here. I can't decide if it's entertaining or just sad.
Zee, sometimes they're even so sure of their (wrong) position and closed to thinking objectively, I'm convinced they're shills... but I can't for the life of me understand what company would bother paying for this kind of service, or why. And we're not even talking about esoteric chemistry things here like Molakule and SOJ grace the board with from time to time... we're talking about things like oil pump flow, filter efficiency, and the fact that UOAs don't mean squat about how your engine is wearing.
I too think it's sad, because there is a TON of good, older info that is free for nothing more than taking the time to read and understand here. It's a shame so few are willing to use it.
I too think it's sad, because there is a TON of good, older info that is free for nothing more than taking the time to read and understand here. It's a shame so few are willing to use it.
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