BMW M240i X Drive / M2 X Drive?

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It looks like BMW is going to be dropping an M2 X Drive car late next year for the US market. I am considering trading my EV6 GT in on an M2 X or M240i X drive (depending on price, as I do not want to break $80k for this, delivered, and I think the M2X could be close. I plan on fully optioning either), in late 2027-8.

Reason for trade: I now have a second car, which makes owning M/RS/AMG cars practical, because I am not putting 30K miles on them per year. I would also like something super cool that I can keep for 15-20 years and while outdated, it will still harken back to an era. Kindof like if you could have a 2003/2004 Terminator today, or an E36 M car. Etc. Having a second car allows me to enjoy it on good days and keep miles within reason. It's also a HUGE factor for maintenance, as 30K/year in any higher end ICE vehicle is nuts unless it's a Lexus, and their performance line is garbage.

Part of why I have avoided cars and gone with wagons/SUV's has been ground clearance. However, the BMW twins mentioned have absolutely absurd skidplates that are the lowest part of the car. My reason for ground clearance issue is gravel roads that sometimes have a "ridge" graded into them. I am 100% confident this plate would flatten the heck out of it. I went to the dealer and checked it out and it was SOLID. Like, I'd hold it in front of myself and let you shoot it with a .22 if spalling could be mitigated and money were involved. This along with an HONEST 5" ground clearance (to this plate, more everywhere else) makes the car viable for my AO. Conversely, the Mustang GT I browsed had well under 5" ground clearance, and that to some felt plastic nonsense.

So my questions are...

-Will the full-on M car hold value better? I suspect it will.
-Do the US market M2's or M240i's have the 48v mild hybrid system? Is it planned?
-Are there any known issues with these? I figured with them being S/B58 and ZF8 based, probably not?
-Has BMW incorporated dual injection into both B and S58 engines by now? I have heard conflicting things.
-Is there too much of an M Tax on the full on M2 cars? The dealer told me not really, but that sounds like something they'd say.


In favor of the M240i X:

-Likely more comfortable for less than perfect roads (maybe?)
-Cheaper
-Cheaper to own and insure

In favor of the M2 X:

-May hold value better as a full-on M car.
-Will perform near identical to my EV6 GT.


I feel like late 2020's is as far as I want to wait to get something like this. I feel like by 2030, everything will be hybrid, etc. and we will have entered another era of even worse nanny state nonsense. By 2027 IIHS is demanding top speed limiting things to get their top rating, and Acura (and others) already limits the top speed to 112/113 on all of their vehicles except the Integra at this point already (Yes, even the MDX-S). This is my chance to get this era's 1987 Buick GN, or the prior 429 CJ, etc. You can never go back in time and do that, and you always say "Dang man, it sure woulda been sweet, even if it's slower and more finicky than what I have today..." So this is my insurance against being my Dad, who did NOT buy a new 429CJ Mustang OR a 1987 Buick GN.

Cribbed this photo of the skidplate from a YT vid. It starts right after the front bumper tuck, and is the lowest part of the M2 I looked at the other day. This body style will be around until 2029 model close.

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B58 is in M240, S58 in M2.
ZF8 is for a long time the most reliable transmission on the market, and among torque converters, best performing. In BMW they are generally best programmed as BMW co developed it.

58 generation has some standard BMW issues. OFHG will leak and because OFH is now composite, it cracks if filter cap is overtightened. Unlike N generation (like my N52) Timing chain is in the back, which means OFH is in the back. On my BMW that is one hour job to replace gasket. On B/S58 requires intake manifold removal. Euro cottage industry of aftermarket parts also has aluminum OFH.
Since N54, BMW’s don’t have CBU issues. They really, really sorted out PCV and DI, so no dual system is necessary. Toyota has it as their DI without port was absolute worst offender on the market.

It has two cooling systems. One for engine another for intercooler. As usual, around 100k hoses should be replaced as well as reservoirs and Mickey Mouse flange (aluminum should be used). It is not expensive, but B generation due to dual cooling system has more piping. Add to that absolute overkill of cooling system with two oil coolers (radiators) plus heat exchangers on engine and on transmission, thee is a lot going on.

M2 will have some real changes over M240. Control arms will probably be forged aluminum and knuckles will be aluminum. Most bushings will be bearing style. It will have harder stiffening plates (underneath that plate that is super thick, is stiffening plates that protects also differential etc.). I “off roaded” with mine when I slide off the track and never, ever damaged anything. That type of stiffening plates is xDrive feature.
S58 will have two oil pick up lines for track purposes so G forces don't starve out engine of oil.

Make sure you change TC fluid every 60k at least (I do every 30k) with BMW stuff (really good ester based fluid made by Shell).

Join bimmerfest. It is best BMW forum for more info.

Not sure about 48V in 2 series but X7 has it. It is absolute blast. I wrote rental review here:
 
B58 is in M240, S58 in M2.
ZF8 is for a long time the most reliable transmission on the market, and among torque converters, best performing. In BMW they are generally best programmed as BMW co developed it.

58 generation has some standard BMW issues. OFHG will leak and because OFH is now composite, it cracks if filter cap is overtightened. Unlike N generation (like my N52) Timing chain is in the back, which means OFH is in the back. On my BMW that is one hour job to replace gasket. On B/S58 requires intake manifold removal. Euro cottage industry of aftermarket parts also has aluminum OFH.
Since N54, BMW’s don’t have CBU issues. They really, really sorted out PCV and DI, so no dual system is necessary. Toyota has it as their DI without port was absolute worst offender on the market.

It has two cooling systems. One for engine another for intercooler. As usual, around 100k hoses should be replaced as well as reservoirs and Mickey Mouse flange (aluminum should be used). It is not expensive, but B generation due to dual cooling system has more piping. Add to that absolute overkill of cooling system with two oil coolers (radiators) plus heat exchangers on engine and on transmission, thee is a lot going on.

M2 will have some real changes over M240. Control arms will probably be forged aluminum and knuckles will be aluminum. Most bushings will be bearing style. It will have harder stiffening plates (underneath that plate that is super thick, is stiffening plates that protects also differential etc.). I “off roaded” with mine when I slide off the track and never, ever damaged anything. That type of stiffening plates is xDrive feature.
S58 will have two oil pick up lines for track purposes so G forces don't starve out engine of oil.

Make sure you change TC fluid every 60k at least (I do every 30k) with BMW stuff (really good ester based fluid made by Shell).

Join bimmerfest. It is best BMW forum for more info.

Not sure about 48V in 2 series but X7 has it. It is absolute blast. I wrote rental review here:
Since posting, I did some research, and it seems S58 is dual injection. Not sure if B58 followed or not, but presumably.

What's the cost of replacing the OFH? I just looked it up on YT, and it took 47 minutes to make a heavily edited video of it, apparently, lol! Probably a good excuse for an extended warranty by itself by the look of it. A quick Google reveals indy shops wanting $2K+-.

That said, it looks like a TON of other stuff can be replaced as intelligent PM while doing this involved repair, that otherwise would nickel and dime you if done when it failed at various points, so take out the wallet at 100K+- and fix it and move on. I am seeing on the forums a lot of debate of whether the housing being polymer is an issue or not, so long as you do no OT the filter.
 
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Since posting, I did some research, and it seems S58 is dual injection. Not sure if B58 followed or not, but presumably.

What's the cost of replacing the OFH? I just looked it up on YT, and it took 47 minutes to make a heavily edited video of it, apparently, lol! Probably a good excuse for an extended warranty by itself by the look of it. A quick Google reveals indy shops wanting $2K+-.
Ah is S58 dual injection to prevent CBU or is it water injection? I think S58 has water injection. So, not sure about that one.

OFH? 14hrs on the book! I remember that when they had bad batch of oil filters hat were getting stuck. So, yeah, $2k I guess.
 
Ah is S58 dual injection to prevent CBU or is it water injection? I honk S58 has water injection. So, not sure about that one.

OFH? 14hrs on the book! I remember that when they had bad batch of oil filters hat were getting stuck. So, yeah, $2k I guess.
BMW labor is around $300 hour. SO yeah, that will rip, lol!

https://bimmerlife.com/2022/04/22/bmw-b58-inline-six-receives-technical-update/

In addition to the cylinder head being integrated with the exhaust manifold, on the intake side of the equation, BMW has added another set of low-pressure fuel injectors to complement the high-pressure direct-injection array. BMW isn’t the first manufacture to adopt a dual injection system on primarily direct-injection engines, because the benefits are obvious. Running a set of conventional fuel injectors before the intake ports reduces both carbon emissions and particulate formation, more commonly known as carbon buildup. As many N54 and some N55 owners are aware, carbon buildup on the intake ports and valves of the engine eventually robs the engine of power and harms efficiency, because there’s no fuel to effectively clean these parts as on a conventional engine.

Just not sure if this is ALL -58 moving forward, or just some. For example I know for a fact the current US M240i does not have 48v hybrid, while the M340 does, etc.
 
BMW labor is around $300 hour. SO yeah, that will rip, lol!

https://bimmerlife.com/2022/04/22/bmw-b58-inline-six-receives-technical-update/



Just not sure if this is ALL -58 moving forward, or just some. For example I know for a fact the current US M240i does not have 48v hybrid, while the M340 does, etc.
So maybe this TU (technical update) added those port injectors. I think B generation is on TU3 (technical update 3). It is 10yrs old engine. That version you are eyeing should have a lot of stuff sorted out.
 
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So maybe this TU (technical update) added those port injectors. I think B generation is on TU3 (technical update 3). It is 10yrs old engine. That version you are eyeing should have a lot of stuff sorted out.
That is my hope. I want to snag a last production year or next to it. I lean toward the M2x, but if it's going to be a nightmare vs the 240x, dunno. Also of course price. I presume it will tip in at around $75K the way I want to option it vs $65K, which isn't enough delta to discourage me UNLESS the PM/parts issues down the line are significantly different.
 
I love my BMW, but they don't hold their value. If you can turn a wrench, an older, low miles bimmer might be a better bet.
 
Do they make a comparable older model?
M models will hold value. I am looking forward to using it, as eventually I will get used to the M2, but of course, the stick shift. Stick shift BMWs do hold value, and considering BMW now only has M models as manuals, they will hold value better.
 
That is my hope. I want to snag a last production year or next to it. I lean toward the M2x, but if it's going to be a nightmare vs the 240x, dunno. Also of course price. I presume it will tip in at around $75K the way I want to option it vs $65K, which isn't enough delta to discourage me UNLESS the PM/parts issues down the line are significantly different.
M2 over M240 by all means.
 
Not certain.
I have a minty '11 328ix 55k miles currently, bought with 34k miles for $13k.
230hp with sweet hydraulic steering. It's super fun to drive, great in the snow & relatively easy to maintain myself. The n51/n52 is a great engine, might be underpowered for your taste.
 
Not certain.
I have a minty '11 328ix 55k miles currently, bought with 34k miles for $13k.
230hp with sweet hydraulic steering. It's super fun to drive, great in the snow & relatively easy to maintain myself. The n51/n52 is a great engine, might be underpowered for your taste.
Used M2 with N/S55. But no xDrive.
Maybe F30 340 xDrive?
 
I bought the 328i over a Lexus RCF. The hydraulic steering is that good. It was also nice to spend $30k less.

I hear that the X3 also handles like a sports car, this might be my next vehicle. Test drives are free.
 
I'd get an F22 M240i or an F87 M2 Competition. The new models have appalling interior ergonomics and the exterior styling was inspired by either Lego or Minecraft. The new M240i xDrive is a porker, weighing the same as my C43.
 
Ws6, why do you want an "X" drive? "X" drive upsets the car's balance as it increases the weight carried by the front end. I have an '18 M240i. Weight distribution is nearly 50/50 (it's bit front end heavy that's noticeable only on the rack). Also, you're adding complexity that's not needed. I live in Northern Virginia, and we get some snow. When the weather is getting colder I swap out the M PSS and for the Vredestein snows.
 
Ws6, why do you want an "X" drive? "X" drive upsets the car's balance as it increases the weight carried by the front end. I have an '18 M240i. Weight distribution is nearly 50/50 (it's bit front end heavy that's noticeable only on the rack). Also, you're adding complexity that's not needed. I live in Northern Virginia, and we get some snow. When the weather is getting colder I swap out the M PSS and for the Vredestein snows.
It absolutely does not upset the car's balance. M2 can really use xDrive with all the power it has. The M2 can go either way but I would personally never get a G42 without xDrive.
 
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