I have a 65 Mercury half ton with the 240 and three on the tree. It’s still sitting out on the farm - I’d love to get it out to B.C. lots of fun driving that one around..,
Big Ford EV Announcement Coming Aug 11th
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The grid here in NY was in poor shape long before EVs existed. The green new pipe dream would only make it worse. IIRC my brother who retired from Con Ed about three years ago said the top brass claimed Con Ed was probably 25-30 years away from being able to support a changeover to EVs. Maybe now they'll be able to accomplish getting the grid ready because imo the changeover is going to be a lot slower now.
If you say so. Please document your claim else ceed my point.
PG&E does nothing but dance on Sacramento's strings.
They are doing it now after PG&E was found liable for not cutting underbrush contributing to fires.
As I said originally, PG&E can usually cut but is not allowed to bill as an operating expense.
Easy to say. How does one measure that? What units does one measure "grid poor shape" in?
What does your brother know about EVs?
You are confusing what is being done vs what the technology supports.
You lust for European on-demand electric power pricing and do not see the association with government control over when one may use one's hot water heater?
Probably as much or more than you, he also knows about the NY grid and Con Edison. Especially since he spent over 20 years working for them, here in NY.
Wait a minute! This is what I say!
… and what happens when EVs make up 10 to 15% of vehicles on the road?
Major grid updates will be needed and everyone will have to pay UNLESS and I suspect people with EVs will incur surcharges to pay for it.
Yes, major expensive grid updates/upgrades taking years if not decades to complete. Especially in densely populated areas like NYC, where keeping up with electric demand during heatwaves can be problematic. Put 10%-15% EVs on the road is asking for trouble with the grid as it stands now. I was laughing when they wanted to go all electric in new buildings to phase out oil and gas for heating, hot water, and push for electric pizza ovens, lol. A little more thought should go into it before making those ridiculous claims makes more sense than trying to set unrealistic goals.
Many of us saw that coming a mile away.
Link? I would like to read this? Thanks!
https://www.jalopnik.com/1930598/ev-transition-problems-automakers/
"Five years ago, most analysts assumed that EVs were heading toward critical mass and that once they consumed around 20-25 percent of the market, they would swiftly take over. That hasn't happened outside of smaller countries and China, and certainly not in the U.S., because going from a gas-powered car to an EV isn't an easy leap – it's more like a series of steps. You have to deal with charging, software issues, and variable battery performance in extremes of weather. You also have to spend thousands if not tens of thousands more dollars to buy an EV than you would on a traditional gas car."
"Five years ago, most analysts assumed that EVs were heading toward critical mass and that once they consumed around 20-25 percent of the market, they would swiftly take over. That hasn't happened outside of smaller countries and China, and certainly not in the U.S., because going from a gas-powered car to an EV isn't an easy leap – it's more like a series of steps. You have to deal with charging, software issues, and variable battery performance in extremes of weather. You also have to spend thousands if not tens of thousands more dollars to buy an EV than you would on a traditional gas car."
They can obviously be recycled, but its far more expensive than just mining new materials.
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