Big Ford EV Announcement Coming Aug 11th

1.4% of cars are now EV’s. Plug 14% into the current grid and see how that works out for you. No one is adding capacity. Maybe we can fire up those mothballed coal fired. Of course then we need more transmission.
No one wants to face this truth. So they bury it to the public.
Not only that it’s if the entire public that will bare the cost of upgrading the grid for EV owners?
Not fair.
Really the fairest way would be a surcharge on EV charging. This alone should be high enough to pay the cost of grid updates leaving non car owners and gasoline owners electric rates alone.

Think about it seriously. Oil companies pay the cost to keep their systems functioning and up to date including manufacturing gasoline and it’s in the price of fuel. I do expect something like this if we ever get close to double digit acceptance of EVs
No free ride.
 
Yes I could have been more specific. We haven’t increased electricity production in 30 years. Our big issue is overall electricity production - for AI, for industrial reshoring if we’re going to do that. And for EV if we’re going to do that. Sounds like a big lift.

Also the only short term fix is likely natural gas. Gas is virtually free currently because we have more than we can use. That price will change when we start using it. Europe pays 6X more for nat gas than we do.
Yeah, I find the timing off for LNG exports when AI is about to go through the roof. Every GW of green must have backup - often GTG - now that is the same plan AI has in many cases …
As for EV’s - I’d only bring back incentives for those who are buying both the EV and the means to charge - even a “reverse meter” scenario like Jeff …
GTG’s have self powered industrial plants - and sold excess to the grid for many years in various states …
 
When I recoup the upfront investment, what will the cost be?

Since you bragged about it being "free", show us how you came up with that.

Lots of ways to compute the cost, from simple to complex.

Assuming you charge solely from a paid off array and not the grid, it could be whatever the installed cost of the battery is / the amount of cycles its expected to live.

Or you could work up a leveled cost per KWH factoring in efficiency, degradation, expected cycles and replacement cost including the cost of the money over time.

Im a big fan of solar, but when discussing it with a group of detail oriented guys, I choose my words carefully.
 
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Someone please name some smashing Ford success in the last 40 years?

The Maverick originally looked great and then they pulled a Ford and only offered the higher end trims. The Bronco had some initial success but never came close to the JL which has been around since 2018. If they were ever going to have a chance that was it, only one competitor with an old product.

Ford - milking the F-series for 3 generations.

Easy.
Ford f100 with 300 cubic inch i6 with 3 on the tree and a 2bbl carb.
 
If you can show me the future in that as stations close down, I'm all ears. It's power intensive to produce, difficult to keep contained, and expensive to fuel. You might be interested to read the issues people have had fueling Toyota Mirais. The stations use staging tanks to raise the pressure to fully fuel vehicles and busy stations sometimes don't retain enough pressure to get a full tank.
What I like to tell people is that hydrogen is the big lie.
 

Does the capital, fuel and operating costs of this reactor make for a liquid fuel that will be cost competitive with gasoline? How will you get it from the reactor to the dispensing point?

Technically possible does not necessarily mean comercially feasible. People just keep insisting that they're going to find a way to make hydrogen comercially feasible as a transportation fuel. I personally don't see it, but, they're welcome to keep trying as it certainly burns clean!
 
I certainly wish Ford the best; I’ve owned more Fords than any other brand over the years, but… the Model T went further on a tank of gas than the standard-range Mach-E would go on a full charge in winter.
With a miniscule fraction of the performance. And around town, it would definitely go farther than the Model T even in cold weather.
 
Cadillac and Buick are legacy companies. Their idea of going all EV is going to send future customers elsewhere. Many high volume GM dealers have dropped Buick and Cadillac because they do not want to invest in the training or infrastructure.
Who said training investments are not required for new ICE models either?
I wonder what it costs to get a Cadillac franchise. Anyway...
 
Who said training investments are not required for new ICE models either?
I wonder what it costs to get a Cadillac franchise. Anyway...
Buick and Cadillac have the two oldest buying groups by brand. Lexus is a close 3rd. Those brands are dyeing out, just like Olds and Pontiac did long ago. There are too many brands.

When we only had 3 manufacturers it made sense. There are 20 OEM's competing now. The different brands dillute there efforts, IMHO.
 
Since you bragged about it being "free", show us how you came up with that.

Lots of ways to compute the cost, from simple to complex.

Assuming you charge solely from a paid off array and not the grid, it could be whatever the installed cost of the battery is / the amount of cycles its expected to live.
I said free nights, because that's how the plan is billed. I don't pay for what I use at night. The tradeoff is a much higher daytime rate. But I also don't use power during the daytime. The cost is all in the upfront investment. It was $22,500 w/ the tax credit. I was spending $3,800 on power annually, plus another $3,800 on gas. So my annual savings is ~$7,200. MB31 LFP has 8,000 cycles. Panels are warrantied for 87% at 25 years. My average price per kWh was 1.3 cents on my last bill. There's a flat $10 for the plan, plus I sometimes exceed my hardware's rating and there's small constant draw from the grid.
 
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