Better engine performance?
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your engine will "make" 100+ ponies with that, try draining your oil and then add 1 quart of motor oil and then DYNO that bad boy, and watch the ponies roll.
Thinner oil won't make a Modern Day love letter to Dwight D Eisenhower and separate but equal schooling laws Vulcan V6 any faster
Ask me how I know...
Just run the specced 5w-30 or backspecced 5w-20 and spend your money on maintenance item's that'll probably make your Vulcan as good as it can be at this point
Ask me how I know...
Just run the specced 5w-30 or backspecced 5w-20 and spend your money on maintenance item's that'll probably make your Vulcan as good as it can be at this point
No, it won't.
You could try it but I don't think you will feel any difference
You could try it but I don't think you will feel any difference
More to the point, it is a 16 yr old Ford. Better performance is contraindicated. Drive this vintage heap carefully and it may get to 17.
Just get some stickers. Less messy that way.
Originally Posted By: splinter
Just get some stickers. Less messy that way.
brilliant, I agree.
Just get some stickers. Less messy that way.
brilliant, I agree.
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Didn't Ford backspec 5w20 for those 5w30 Vulcans? So, start by using a 5w20 and see how far the tach goes.
The Vulcan will last forever as long as it has oil but you'll go through a few dozen transmissions.
Hi-rev for a Vulcan is what 2500rpm? 3000?
0w20 should work well in place of 5w20.
Here's one:
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_Extended_Performance.aspx
The Vulcan will last forever as long as it has oil but you'll go through a few dozen transmissions.
Hi-rev for a Vulcan is what 2500rpm? 3000?
0w20 should work well in place of 5w20.
Here's one:
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_Extended_Performance.aspx
I train my oil to do the job, and cracking the whip underneath the hood every now and then, + using thinner grade oil makes a whole lot of difference...
budt dyno sez at least 100+bhp gained..
So giddy-up, horsey!
Q.
budt dyno sez at least 100+bhp gained..
So giddy-up, horsey!
Q.
Originally Posted By: Quest
I train my oil to do the job, and cracking the whip underneath the hood every now and then, + using thinner grade oil makes a whole lot of difference...
budt dyno sez at least 100+bhp gained..
So giddy-up, horsey!
Q.
Ha.
Awesome.
No.
However oil grade will affect engine output because of parasitic loss.
So the engine will rev up slightly faster with thinner oil however actual power output won't be affected enough to notice.
If your engine isnt back spec'd for thinner oil don't go thinner. 9 times out of 10 it won't cause a problem however that one time could be you and engine damage occurs.
You can help somewhat by using a 0w-30. It will be marginally thinner at star up so it will improve efficiency as it warms up by a very,very slight margin.
I train my oil to do the job, and cracking the whip underneath the hood every now and then, + using thinner grade oil makes a whole lot of difference...
budt dyno sez at least 100+bhp gained..
So giddy-up, horsey!
Q.
Ha.
Awesome.
No.
However oil grade will affect engine output because of parasitic loss.
So the engine will rev up slightly faster with thinner oil however actual power output won't be affected enough to notice.
If your engine isnt back spec'd for thinner oil don't go thinner. 9 times out of 10 it won't cause a problem however that one time could be you and engine damage occurs.
You can help somewhat by using a 0w-30. It will be marginally thinner at star up so it will improve efficiency as it warms up by a very,very slight margin.
Among racers, it was common to use very thin oils for qualifying laps. Then switch to a more viscous oil for endurance races. The thinner oil was one way to achieve more top speed, at the expense of engine wear. In fact, some old school Nascar teams did just this and then swapped engines for the "500".
Since I was a tech on a few of these teams years ago, I thought I'd give it a try in my turbocharged Miata a while back. I was looking for a "more free revving" engine. So, I put in some M1, 0W-20 AFE. The result was 250PPM Pb (bearing material) and other elevated wear metals. Shortly thereafter, the engine came out for overhaul. While the oil was not directly responsible for the engine removal, it was a contributing factor. Also, in my case, the thin oil did nothing to improve engine power or feel. That's more a factor of volumetric efficiency at high RPM.
Fellow turbocharged racers, and myself, stick to what works. Robust, more viscous, synthetics.
As for your engine, the loads placed on the bearings by piston and rod inertia are higher than the loads of combustion. That means, high RPM operation are where a super thin oil will be most likely to fail you. It's also where you are looking for benefit.
If you drive your Taurus like a race car, you will be better served by a more robust oil.
Since I was a tech on a few of these teams years ago, I thought I'd give it a try in my turbocharged Miata a while back. I was looking for a "more free revving" engine. So, I put in some M1, 0W-20 AFE. The result was 250PPM Pb (bearing material) and other elevated wear metals. Shortly thereafter, the engine came out for overhaul. While the oil was not directly responsible for the engine removal, it was a contributing factor. Also, in my case, the thin oil did nothing to improve engine power or feel. That's more a factor of volumetric efficiency at high RPM.
Fellow turbocharged racers, and myself, stick to what works. Robust, more viscous, synthetics.
As for your engine, the loads placed on the bearings by piston and rod inertia are higher than the loads of combustion. That means, high RPM operation are where a super thin oil will be most likely to fail you. It's also where you are looking for benefit.
If you drive your Taurus like a race car, you will be better served by a more robust oil.
Stick with 5W-30. No need for 0W-20. You'll see no benefits.
in fact, when lugging the engine the 0w20 might be counterproductive aswell.
Originally Posted By: Jetronic
in fact, when lugging the engine the 0w20 might be counterproductive aswell.
Agreed. If you're running it hard then stick with a thicker oil.
in fact, when lugging the engine the 0w20 might be counterproductive aswell.
Agreed. If you're running it hard then stick with a thicker oil.
well, what else have you done are are you going to do for performance? How about taking some junk out of the trunk? That'll give you more performance than a different oil.
As will driving with half a tank, that saves about ~8lbs per gallon of fuel you're not carrying
As will driving with half a tank, that saves about ~8lbs per gallon of fuel you're not carrying
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