Best oil for a hybrid?

[Revrick]

Just purchased a 2021 Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring, which is a hybrid. Any recommendations on oil? I generally go with Mobil 1 0-20 for most all of my recent cars. However, now I have a fully-electric Mustang and the Corsair.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

A true hybrid oil should be a blend of Dino and synthetic as that too is a hybrid mixture. Common sense dictates this.

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[Best F100]

I have a hybrid Ford Maverick I am using Mobil 1 0-20. Mobil said it is good for 10,000 miles but I will not run that far before changing. I will go by the oil change computer and change when it gets to 25%.

I too, have a ‘22 Ford Maverick Hybrid. Also, use Mobil 1 0W20EP. I put 210,000 miles on a 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid. Same engine, same oil.

In your Corsair, you have the same 2.5L Hybrid engine as we have. However, your Corsair’s curb weight is a good 700-800 lbs more than our vehicles. I would consider bumping up to a Mobil 1 0/5W30 if I were lugging around that extra weight on the same engine all the time. That is, if I were out of warranty, and wished to keep that car long term.

 

[Zee09]

I too, have a ‘22 Ford Maverick Hybrid. Also, use Mobil 1 0W20EP. I put 210,000 miles on a 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid. Same engine, same oil.

In your Corsair, you have the same 2.5L Hybrid engine as we have. However, your Corsair’s curb weight is a good 700-800 lbs more than our vehicles. I would consider bumping up to a Mobil 1 0/5W30 if I were lugging around that extra weight on the same engine all the time. That is, if I were out of warranty, and wished to keep that car long term.

How many miles do you have on the Maverick?

 

[Best F100]

How many miles do you have on the Maverick?

Not many. About 8,000. It is only used as a “Town Car” . Home Depot runs, runs to the dump and a fishing vehicle. It is better to transport smelly fish in a truck bed instead of an SUV. Ask me how I know.

I was fortunate to get this one at the Ford “A” plan (after fighting with the dealership). 40-48 mpg in town, depending on ambient temperatures.

Ironically, our other vehicle is a lease Corsair. Used for trips.

 

[Zee09]

Not many. About 8,000. It is only used as a “Town Car” . Home Depot runs, runs to the dump and a fishing vehicle. It is better to transport smelly fish in a truck bed instead of an SUV. Ask me how I know.

I was fortunate to get this one at the Ford “A” plan (after fighting with the dealership). 40-48 mpg in town, depending on ambient temperatures.

Ironically, our other vehicle is a lease Corsair. Used for trips.

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[Wat_MPG]

Amsoil now has an API certified hybrid oil. Haven't seen much talk about it.

 

[kschachn]

Amsoil now has an API certified hybrid oil. Haven't seen much talk about it.

Perhaps everyone is waiting for you? What have you got?

 

[Wat_MPG]

Perhaps everyone is waiting for you? What have you got?

Perhaps. Don't hold your breath.

 

[nascarnation]

Lot of those Ford Escape hybrids did > 400,000 miles on the original motor in NYC yellow taxi fleets (before Uber/Lyft came in).
I'd bet they didn't get anything special in the oil department.

 

[stash80]

Just got back my Valvoline Hybrid 0W-20 virgin oil analysis from Blackstone.

 

[facility1]

looks like a good snout oil, Valvoline has,lots of moly ,looks like a winner.

 

[gabriel9766]

Just bought a 24 powerboost, it takes 5w30 I have a bunch of Kirkland full synthetic 5w30 left over from my maverick I plan on doing 3 5K intervals on. By the time I get to work the oil temp reaches full operational temp but I shut it off and go in. 5K is my intended intervals

 

[Astro_Guy]

Just purchased a 2021 Lincoln Corsair Grand Touring, which is a hybrid. Any recommendations on oil? I generally go with Mobil 1 0-20 for most all of my recent cars. However, now I have a fully-electric Mustang and the Corsair.

My arguably limited reading on this subject suggests that the marketeers and possibly the engineers are arguing that hybrid engine oils don't always get up to what the rest of us consider to be normal operating temperature. That's a rather specious argument without stating the assumptions of how far the car is driven. Having had a Prius in the fleet since 2010 I believe that there may be some merit to the argument for short trips but likely none for a trip over ten miles. The ICE remains as the primary power source in traditional hybrids. The battery will ease the startup load and thus the warm up speed but it can't take the car very far.

Now if we are talking about a PHEV then the calculus changes pretty dramatically. I've taken a few drives this week in winter weather where I am certain that the oil did not reach normal operating temperature. That being said I won't consider one of these hybrid oils as I do tend to take my PHEV on a long road trip every few months. Were I to live in an urban area and seldom drive more than 5-7 miles at a time then maybe I would look at them.

 

[stash80]

My arguably limited reading on this subject suggests that the marketeers and possibly the engineers are arguing that hybrid engine oils don't always get up to what the rest of us consider to be normal operating temperature. That's a rather specious argument without stating the assumptions of how far the car is driven. Having had a Prius in the fleet since 2010 I believe that there may be some merit to the argument for short trips but likely none for a trip over ten miles. The ICE remains as the primary power source in traditional hybrids. The battery will ease the startup load and thus the warm up speed but it can't take the car very far.

Now if we are talking about a PHEV then the calculus changes pretty dramatically. I've taken a few drives this week in winter weather where I am certain that the oil did not reach normal operating temperature. That being said I won't consider one of these hybrid oils as I do tend to take my PHEV on a long road trip every few months. Were I to live in an urban area and seldom drive more than 5-7 miles at a time then maybe I would look at them.

I used my ODB II scanner to track my coolant temp in live data mode. I drive a 2014 C-Max Energi. Unless I was driving on a highway my coolant temp never got to the norm of 195 - 220. I usually take 5 - 25 mile trips on 30 - 45 MPH roads with occasional stops. Even in summer the temperature would get close to 190 but not much over, unless I was highway driving. The ICE engine stays on a lot more during highway driving, that is why most hybrids get worse gas mileage during this kind of driving.

 

[Astro_Guy]

I used my ODB II scanner to track my coolant temp in live data mode.

I'll have to try that.

 

[garageman402]

I used my ODB II scanner to track my coolant temp in live data mode. I drive a 2014 C-Max Energi. Unless I was driving on a highway my coolant temp never got to the norm of 195 - 220. I usually take 5 - 25 mile trips on 30 - 45 MPH roads with occasional stops. Even in summer the temperature would get close to 190 but not much over, unless I was highway driving. The ICE engine stays on a lot more during highway driving, that is why most hybrids get worse gas mileage during this kind of driving.

Hey, I just acquired the exact same car from my sis-in-law with 33k miles, lol. She bought it in 2017 with 25k, took it to the dealer every time she got a notification, including all the recalls & oil change every 6 months. Dealer used 5w-20. Right after I got it, I got on the throttle with the gas engine & a HUGE cloud of white smoke trailed me! I looked like a skywriter! I'm presuming that was all the built up condensation being blown out. Oil is now at the six month mark with 80 miles (when I got it). Oil looks brand new on the dipstick.

My question is what grade oil are you using? Factory specs 0w-20 I think, but in N. CA 5w-20 synthetic blend is what they used. I'm wondering if a 0w-30 or 5w-30 would work in this? Maybe give a little more protection?

Thanks

 

[OilStainedNapkin]

At face value that’s true. In practice I’m not sure.

I can be driving on the interstate at 70MPH, and have just had a decent load climbing a hill, heat soaked engine, etc., and it will just shut off.

To me that’s a good recipe to cook stuff slowly but surely. Even if there’s an electric coolant and oil pump that keeps things moving.

That’s why I am more concerned about oxidative resistance and stability for hybrids than for regular ICE.

Ive had good success with M1 EP in my accord. I recently changed to HPL 0w-20 for the same reasons i mentioned…

Nvm I just realized I replied to a thread that’s almost a year old…

 

[mark pruett]

At face value that’s true. In practice I’m not sure.

I can be driving on the interstate at 70MPH, and have just had a decent load climbing a hill, heat soaked engine, etc., and it will just shut off.

To me that’s a good recipe to cook stuff slowly but surely. Even if there’s an electric coolant and oil pump that keeps things moving.

That’s why I am more concerned about oxidative resistance and stability for hybrids than for regular ICE.

Ive had good success with M1 EP in my accord. I recently changed to HPL 0w-20 for the same reasons i mentioned…

Over the long haul, it's probably more likely that the batteries will degrade before the engine will if you follow the manual.

 

[garageman402]

Over the long haul, it's probably more likely that the batteries will degrade before the engine will if you follow the manual.

Even if batteries degrade you still have the ICE & just drive it like a regular car. Although a gas car with limited trunk space & no spare tire would be undesirable…..

 

[Patman]

Even if batteries degrade you still have the ICE & just drive it like a regular car. Although a gas car with limited trunk space & no spare tire would be undesirable…..

I don’t think a hybrid with a failed battery would quite be the same as having just a regular ICE. It depends on the exact vehicle but in some cases if the battery dies the car won’t even move at all.