If you looking to do oil changes of 10K or higher, why not just replace the filter at 5K???
Best Filter These Days?
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The manual says to use the Oil Life Monitor to determine oil change intervals and to change to the oil within 500 miles of the "Perform Oil Change" warning. It also says that under severe service conditions to change the oil in 7,500 mile intervals. I drive mostly highway so 10k miles doesn't seem too far fetched.
I drive alot of miles (25-30k per year) and its mostly highway so I'll be out of warranty in about 2 years. I tend to drive my vehicles into the ground and get between 200-300k miles out of them.
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Choosing a extended drain oil is easy, choosing a filter is the tough part.
Fram Ultra seems to have the best efficiency however FRAM seems to have consistent quality control issues. Over the years I seen constant videos of rust, gunk, etc.
I was considering switching to FRAM and checked out a filter at Walmart and there was metal and what seemed like plastic bits on the threads and inlet holes. So for me I will not switch to FRAM because of this.
Mobil 1 oil filters are 99% at 30 Microns
Purolator One is 99% at 20 Microns
Purolator Boss 99% at 25 Microns
I personally will be settling for one of them or sticking with AC Delco.
I was considering switching to FRAM and checked out a filter at Walmart and there was metal and what seemed like plastic bits on the threads and inlet holes. So for me I will not switch to FRAM because of this.
Mobil 1 oil filters are 99% at 30 Microns
Purolator One is 99% at 20 Microns
Purolator Boss 99% at 25 Microns
I personally will be settling for one of them or sticking with AC Delco.
Aren't the AC Delco ones made by Fram?
The mobil 1 is also made by Champion labs, who are now owned by First Brands - AKA Fram?
So if Fram quality bothers you - it should with those also.
Purolator is now owned by M&H.
Welcome to 2023
AC Delco is made in the Champion factory, FRAM has it's own factory. Just because they are owned by the same parent company does not mean they are the same filter. Just look at the AC Delco PF47E cut open and compare it to the FRAM PH3387A, completely different filters for the same application and same price range.Aren't the AC Delco ones made by Fram?
The mobil 1 is also made by Champion labs, who are now owned by First Brands - AKA Fram?
So if Fram quality bothers you - it should with those also.
Purolator is now owned by M&H.
Welcome to 2023
Mobil 1 is made by Mann+Hummel, their warranty literally states Mann+Hummel.
Perhaps so but as the consolidation goes you will see the same media and other components. Different paint job and brand label will be the only difference. There has already been changes in manufacturing locations including overseas.
I have seen some pictures of recent FRAM Extra Guards actually using Champion cores and metal end caps. Over 2 weeks now and FRAM has not responded to an email to confirm if this is temporary, permanent or counterfeit.
If FRAM actually starts using Champion designs for their lower end filters then that is a step forward for FRAM in my opinion as long as they get quality control issues solved.
I do not think we will be seeing any frankenstein or mixing components when it comes to AC Delco E Cores (Unless GM switches suppliers) or other Champion made oil filters.
We will see as time goes on though.
Sadly , it's the norm for FRAM products .
Composite oil filter?
Yes. I will try again later this week.
What do you mean by "composite" oil filter? You talking a canister vs a spin-on? Never heard anyone refer to a "composite" oil filter.
Yes, the Toyota cannister filter housing is a composite material. They seem to be very prone to problems due to over tighrening and the heat cycles. Regardless, they can be troublesome.
Here's my post...
It sounds like the filter housing on my wife's Jeep GC. I have not had any problems with it however extreme care is taken when tightening it down. I prefer the Fram Ultra filter for everything I have except the Jeep gets a Mobile 1 cartridge type of filter.
Got ya ... the term "composite filter" didn't elude to the filter cap, but rather the filter itself.
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I noticed when these types of threads pop up most people suggest canister style filters.
Are there any brand cartridge style filters that are “better” than an OEM manufacturer?
Are there any brand cartridge style filters that are “better” than an OEM manufacturer?
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No they don’t but for Toyota they contract it out to denso, and tell them to make it to a specific spec. This is why denso filters are and look like junk compared to the Toyota oem denso filters
I choose flow over filtering so out of this bunch it'd be Wix or Fram. Basing that along a test some guys put up on YouTube using a home made tester pumping actual oil with actual contamination measured by an oil lab well know here.
What qualities are you looking for?
Absolute highest filter efficiency ignoring cost is probably amsoil.
Absolute highest dirt capacity, wix xp.
Absolute highest flow that I know of, k&n with wix xp not far behind.
The strongest filter are probably Donaldson.
I think right now today the highest filtering efficiency for the lowest cost is the fram synthetic endurance.
Those frams are almost as efficient at stopping 15 micron dirt as amsoil for like 1/5 the cost of an amsoil.
Absolute highest filter efficiency ignoring cost is probably amsoil.
Absolute highest dirt capacity, wix xp.
Absolute highest flow that I know of, k&n with wix xp not far behind.
The strongest filter are probably Donaldson.
I think right now today the highest filtering efficiency for the lowest cost is the fram synthetic endurance.
Those frams are almost as efficient at stopping 15 micron dirt as amsoil for like 1/5 the cost of an amsoil.
A few PSI difference in dP vs flow between most big brand name oil filters isn't going to make any difference with the oil pump forcing oil through the system. Besides, there are high efficiency filters that have less dP vs flow than many less efficient filters. No real thing as "flow over filtration".
