Bachelors - Pressure for marriage

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You are still figuring yourself out 20-30 IMHO. Wait......

I absolutely enjoyed my 20-30's and my love from college and I met back up in our 30's when we decided to settle back.

Glad we both had experience with others and other places etc before coming back.
 
Originally Posted By: expat
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I don't see myself getting married.

I would like the companionship, but it seems like a wedding is a lot of to-do. With so many marriages ending badly ...

I also am not entirely sure I want children, either.

Maybe I am just selfish? I want to live a simple life.


How is that selfish?
I think you are quite reasonable. If you don't want kids, you shouldn't have kids!
And, you should not get yourself in a situation where you get pressured to have kids.
(as many men do in a marriage)


I fully own up to being selfish in this regard - I value my time and happiness quite highly, and the freedom to do what I want with my time. I feel that kids take a lot of time and money - two things I don't have excess of currently.
 
If your already telling yourself you want to stay single, then by all means, stay the course. You, yourself, are not ready and it's good thing you know that. Lot of people get married just to be married and are generally young. When they realize their spouse is not what they wanted, divorce court here they come. But, if you want kids, take it from me....I'm turning 50 on Thursday with a 9 year old, try and "do it" before 40....keeping pace with a 9 year old is a lot of work. I've been married for almost 15 years and I love here....but, would I do it all over again? No.
 
I once had someone say to me "anybody not married by 30 is gay."

Tell em all to mind their own business.

John
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It's real simple - if you don't want to get married, then don't. Just because others think they know what's best for you doesn't mean that they actually know. Besides, will they be the ones that have to live with your potential poor decision(s)? In giving you their unsolicited advice, they are at no risk if that advice is bad.

I felt like you for a long time (didn't actually get married until I was 32) and was a bit jealous of what my best friend had (they married at 22 and we all went to high school together). Come to find out much later that their relationship was pretty on the outside, but a bit rocky on the inside. Had I known that, I wouldn't have been so eager to get on the bandwagon.

It also sounds like if you did get married at some point, you'd still value your time as your own. I implore you then to not have children. When you do, your life is no longer your own. Food for thought.
 
Originally Posted By: Schmoe
If your already telling yourself you want to stay single, then by all means, stay the course. You, yourself, are not ready and it's good thing you know that. Lot of people get married just to be married and are generally young. When they realize their spouse is not what they wanted, divorce court here they come. But, if you want kids, take it from me....I'm turning 50 on Thursday with a 9 year old, try and "do it" before 40....keeping pace with a 9 year old is a lot of work. I've been married for almost 15 years and I love here....but, would I do it all over again? No.

And why wouldn't you get married ?
 
Originally Posted By: Miller88
I also am not entirely sure I want children, either.

Get yourself cut right away!!! that'll at least take care of that problem.Just think, if you get one that says" I want to feel you" you know she wants to get knocked up,well, you can comply and just say,"sure ,ok".She'll wonder in a few weeks or so why she hasn't gotten pregnant.That's when its time to scram!!
 
Sometimes this "talk" gets into people's heads and then they feel they need to marry. Never look for it, never force it... it will never work. It will happen when you least expect it.

I have a beautiful 4 year old with a woman who is not my wife, but a best friend.

Lots and lots of talk about us getting married "because it was the right thing to do" since we had a child.

We knew we were just not meant for one another. We did things right, and we have an amazing relationship as best friends and parents. Our kid sees this, and it will reflect how she will be when she gets older.

No way i'd be saying this about her if we went along with a loveless marriage.

Sorry for the rambling... Just don't think about it. Let it happen.
 
Marriage IS an institution, and some men don't want to be institutionalized!

Seriously though, at 42, with 6 sisters that are all married with kids, the folks are plenty happy with all those grand, and great grand children.

No need for me to mess around with it...

Leaves more time for riding motorcycles!
 
34 years old, not married, no interest. I'm not even dating and that's fine with me. If I want some "family life" I can hang out with my friends who are married with kids and that's enough. More than enough.
 
I must say, I did not expect this kind of response on BITOG

I had always considered it to be a Family Values kind of site.

Marriage is fine, if it works for you.
But the unwritten chain of obligations: Marry by 25, have a kid (or two), keep together and make it work for 25 years, hope your kids come around to appreciate what you did for them by the time you retire.
Is quickly becoming a thing of the past.
 
IMO kids existing in broken or breaking homes, or homes where the parents are as immature as the children is just a huge dissservice to the children and showing them what a quality life should be. Im sure Ill get flamed because lots of people have succeeded from broken homes, and many are existing in and raising kids in broken homes.

Sure, there are lots of situations and scenarios. But IMO if a real, proper mother and father figure, working as a team, was reflected in most of American life, we wouldnt have the inner city issues, the rebelion issues, and many other things. Some stuff has always been the case and is just part of human nature. Some people just arent meant to carry on the species, thats OK.

But dont breed em if you cant feed and support them, both monetarily, and in a household full of love, togetherness, and teaming.

Having come off a road trip down south, its amazing how many single mothers there are. Perhaps it is because we were traveling with our baby and they wanted to talk about theirs - which is great. But I feel for their babies and their development without a father figure and a full home.

Per Dr. Stanley's research in The Millionaire Mind:

- 92% of millionaire households in America are composed of married couples
- these married couples have 1/3rd the divorce rate of non-millionaire couples
- on average, they have been married for 28 years or more
- one quarter of them have been married for 38 years or more
- and even those who have divorced are overwhelmingly likely to be remarried.

This is a good read for everyone on here, as it talks to relationship traits and how successful marriages base their decision and important attributes both initially and long-term:

http://www.thompsonlaw.ca/pdf_folder/millcouple.pdf

Of course people can question and take issue with the stats and facts presented there, and that's OK. But also, for whatever shred of truth that exists in those points, the reality is also that many are not suited to be millionaires or rich, that's OK. And, many that break these rules do exist. And it does not mean that marriage is a guarantee to success or anything else... But there is something beneficial to the instition of marriage, and IMO the breakdown of morality, breakdown of the family structure, and abundance of children in/from a broken home does not do well for anyone.

So good for those who desire NOT to marry, and to save the hurt, cost and other problems associated with failed long-term and legal;y-bound relationships.
 
I agree with don't breed them if you won't feed them.

But what of the guys like me who were the faithful ones, but because wifey thinks the grass is greener, and the general opinion is if wifey is cheating, it must be hubbies fault, the kids go away with the unfaithful mom.

Realize that 66 to 75 percent of all divorces are sought by women. It's not because men are worse behaved. After all, if men are having affairs, is it with other men? Of course not. So all of the social hand-wringing about absent dads is largely a red herring. Stop giving moms custody of their kids when they decide they are tired of dad and you'll find more and more women willing to work on their marriage instead of disposing of their husband while hoping to keep the house, get alimony and child support.

(My ex even wanted me to pay for her lawyer for a divorce I didn't even want. I suggested she have her lover pay her legal fees since she was cheating. It was ugly.)

I simply wonder how many single moms either volunteered or created the situation by removing their baby daddy from the situation?

So let's not just blame the men. As far as marriage goes, women end them up to three times as often as men. Yet we still keep hearing about the absent father.

When will we begin to hear in relative proportion about the wife who is unfaithful and/or simply wants to end her marriage? I for one am tired of men getting the blame for something that in 66 to 75 percent of cases, he didn't even choose, but was forced upon him due to prevalence of No Fault Divorce.
 
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
99.9% of chicks under 30 yrs old are wayyyyyyyyyyy too inmature to be married.


Fine by me.

The older ones just get nuttier with age!
 
Originally Posted By: surfstar
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
99.9% of chicks under 30 yrs old are wayyyyyyyyyyy too inmature to be married.


Fine by me.

The older ones just get nuttier with age!


Haha yep,that too!
 
Originally Posted By: bradepb
My wife and I have absolutely nothing in common other than children. Its sad to think I am stuck in neutral the rest of my life as she is against where I want to live and how I want to live.


I'm sure there are extenuating circumstances, else you would already have made changes, but I suggest, at the very least, you start pushing for a change. What ever you do, don't just suffer in silence - the results can't be any worse than the present, and might produce some unexpected, ultimately beneficial result.

Good luck. Today is the first day of the rest of.......
 
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Just tell them you haven't been fortunate enough to meet the right one yet.

"I just want what you have Grandpa, and it will take a special woman like Grandma" (said within Grandma's hearing)


Best suggestion yet.
 
Originally Posted By: expat
I must say, I did not expect this kind of response on BITOG

I had always considered it to be a Family Values kind of site.

Marriage is fine, if it works for you.
But the unwritten chain of obligations: Marry by 25, have a kid (or two), keep together and make it work for 25 years, hope your kids come around to appreciate what you did for them by the time you retire.
Is quickly becoming a thing of the past.


I think BITOG is a family values site. However, the landscape has changed and the world is no longer a marriage friendly place. Especially for the men.
 
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