My wife's new to us 2022 Highlander (bought w/ only 8,400 miles on it) has a start/stop system that is seamless-you can't feel it. No hammer needed. It IS TRUE that some manufacturers do a better job than others on this "feature".
Automatic shut off of new vehicles upon idle?
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That's a Honda issue. How many F150s are around with start/stop? Failures on not wide spread. Hondas Pilots sold are a fraction of the F150's volume.
Don’t use the hammer. It takes all of about a half a second to push the button. Eventually it will become second nature.
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Both our vehicles have it and it's easy to modulate. It will only shut them off if you apply more force than normal on the brake after fully stopped. If you just stop like normal, it won't perform the idle shut off. If we didn't like it, we would just press the button after starting the vehicle. Second nature like @PimTac mentions.
First thing I programmed out of my Ranger. Took all of a couple minutes with Forscan and I never have to mess with it again.
What would all the big pickup and SUV drivers do at the gas station? They leave their trucks running to run in. Never understood that.
This tech would help alleviate that issue, but it really isn’t our, or a car companies business if we want to idle our cars.
Silly.
This tech would help alleviate that issue, but it really isn’t our, or a car companies business if we want to idle our cars.
Silly.
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It's become common nature once I enter and start the van. The first off is the ESS button. Other may claim that they have devices that will auto disable the system. The only other option is to locate the switch under the hood and disable it. This could mean simply detaching it from it's location. But one would be left with a "Open Hood" latch message on the dash.
The worst was on a Diesel BMW X5 that belonged to my Head Office Boss in Germany, the shudder from the passenger seat each time it turned off and on was jarring and felt very un-sophisticated. Most people now - in gasoline ICE - never sense the events.
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Actually no. It only functions when the car is in Drive (not Park). If the engine is auto-stopped and you shift to park, it starts up again at least in my F150. I read on the internet it preloads gas into the cylinders for a quicker restart.
Leaving a vehicle running while one goes into the store is likely a mix of ignorance and arrogance. Unless it's over 100F or under 0F, then it's understandable. Or a bad battery. Or the dog's in the truck. Or the wife's in the truck. Hmmm. Maybe not always ignorance or arrogance...
It slows down my holeshot when the light turns green and there is someone trying to pass me in the right lane.
It was invented by satan to torture us.
Startus Interruptus can be a very minor annoyance or a major frustation. Depends on the situation.
Not a fan. Now if it was a super long light or traffic jam I could see the use but to come stop at a stop sign and it try to turn off just as you want to go it makes it quite a poor experience.
Toyota hybrid is so different as it’s not using a starter for the restarts.
I bought the harness for our GLI to make it turn off when the vehicle turns on.
Start stop on FCA vehicles is a battery nightmare. It’s daily we are replacing 1 or both batteries in vehicles.
I know the ford argument. Maybe we got a dealer tech on here that could say hey we replace starters all the time or no it’s not an issue.
Every mechanical item has a mean time between failure (MTBF). If you would normally start the vehicle one time per trip as opposed to say 5-10. Then yes there just is no way it won’t last less time.
Toyota hybrid is so different as it’s not using a starter for the restarts.
I bought the harness for our GLI to make it turn off when the vehicle turns on.
Start stop on FCA vehicles is a battery nightmare. It’s daily we are replacing 1 or both batteries in vehicles.
I know the ford argument. Maybe we got a dealer tech on here that could say hey we replace starters all the time or no it’s not an issue.
Every mechanical item has a mean time between failure (MTBF). If you would normally start the vehicle one time per trip as opposed to say 5-10. Then yes there just is no way it won’t last less time.
The stop system is bypassed by the shifter being moved to park. At least it is on every vehicle I’ve driven that uses it.
Don’t like it. But I wouldn’t pass on a vehicle just because of it either.
My 2019 Honda Pilot stays off if you shift from Drive into Park if the engine had stopped. The engine will restart when you shift back into Drive.
Or have you? Your gen Prius is known for head gasket failures, I do wonder if the repeated start/stops may have something to do with it. The extra heat cycles may be a factor, that at the very least may have exacerbated a design issue.
Not that I would necessarily worry about it, but we also cannot categorically say it won’t cause anything.
In regular ICE vehicles I find it annoying.
I dont like auto shutoff but I dont obesess about it since it can be disabled on all vehicles I tried so far.
Otherwise the car could not serve as a survival capsule in the summer in the desert or in the winter in the north.
Otherwise the car could not serve as a survival capsule in the summer in the desert or in the winter in the north.
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