API finds nearly half of certified oils have issues

[Foxtrot08]

What oil company do you work for?

I would be giving my name away if I said it. Literally.

 

[Zee09]

I would be giving my name away if I said it. Literally.

When I was an arrogant young buck I demanded full disclosure on my forums. If you were in the trade and you didn't disclose it in your signature you got the boot. It stopped the shills and the spammers in short order. Of course I have aged since then.

 

[paulri]

Fidel Castrol?

I would be giving my name away if I said it. Literally.

 

[Rogueman2016s]

I’m getting better mileage with NAPA AKA VALVOLINE full synthetic over pennzoil platinum, how could that be?

 

[Opelman]

Check out Mouren-Laurens oil company. Remember the fine product Ray Lube? My dad worked for the fire dept. and did the yearly fire inspections there. Many brands and grades all coming out of the same nozzle. Place was a trash heap too. Since there were several refineries in the area he started purchasing oil right at the source. I remember Delvac multi vis and Aeroshell 50 coming home. He later became an Amsoil dealer as he really jumped on the synthetic bandwagon. Mouren-Laurens is a superfund site now.

 

[The Lube Guy]

I’m getting better mileage with NAPA AKA VALVOLINE full synthetic over pennzoil platinum, how could that be?

It's called the Placebo Effect.

 

[Zee09]

I’m getting better mileage with NAPA AKA VALVOLINE full synthetic over pennzoil platinum, how could that be?

That GTL must have thickened.

 

[Rogueman2016s]

It's called the Placebo Effect.

I’m just going by the computer

 

[fdcg27]

Without more detail it's hard to say what the real situation is with the oils we buy.
In the current business climate, including that in our own country, widespread cheating on blending to spec would not surprise me, disheartening as it might be,

 

[The Lube Guy]

I’m just going by the computer

What are your numbers?

 

[Thermo1223]

When I was an arrogant young buck I demanded full disclosure on my forums. If you were in the trade and you didn't disclose it in your signature you got the boot. It stopped the shills and the spammers in short order. Of course I have aged since then.

Stop it, you're scaring them old man!

 

[Rogueman2016s]

What are your numbers?

Why are you being a . My avg mpg has gone up. Depends on the commute I’m seeing up to a 4mpg increase

 

[The Lube Guy]

Why are you being a . My avg mpg has gone up. Depends on the commute I’m seeing up to a 4mpg increase

Sorry I asked. You do you man. If it makes you happy, enjoy your fantasy.

 

[DirectRejection]

I would be giving my name away if I said it. Literally.

Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Lucas.

 

[SC Maintenance]

I'll be the first to say I know nothing of API testing and even less than nothing about Chemistry. But this article - and I do appreciate the OP posting it - doesn't tell us much really.

First, it says of 27,000 licensed product it collected 1000 samples and 460 were off. But they tell us nothing about the samples. Are they collected randomly across many brands - or are they looking at samples they think might be cheating? It makes no mention either way, ie there is no data on the sampling. All 1000 could be from crappy suppliers we never heard of - or they could all be from Mobil1?

Second, it says "emphasized that while some non-conformities were minor, the prevalence of "questionable additives" in 15% of the samples indicated a divergence from the original chemical fingerprints established during licensing." So of even the 15%, is it not conformance of meeting spec, or did they just substitute something and didn't pay to have it re-tested. Again, we don't know?

Again, not knowing anything about the actual science around this, the article really doesn't say much in the end.

 

[Tom NJ]

I work every day to say confidently that every drop of oil that I sell, meets spec and is a quality product. Because it literally has my name on it. And I value that more than anything else in business.

“Integrity is the essence of everything successful.”

Integrity takes courage. The only thing you take to your grave is character - honesty, integrity, consistency, and loyalty. We need more like you in this industry.

 

[DirectRejection]

This thread is reminding me how much I appreciate quality control and transparency.

 

[KCJeep]

Pleasure to meet you, Mr. Lucas.

Can’t be Lucas, he’s got the good stuff.

 

[wareze]

I wouldn't be suprised if everyone's favorite oil supertech fails

 

[sloinker]

I have worked in two commodity industries in the past. Paper and aluminum sheet and plate.The customer dictated the parameters of the product they ordered. We sampled and tested everything prior to shipment. Sometimes we got those trainloads of beer can aluminum or linerboard back from the customer. They looked at their tests and determined the load wasn't up to spec. These companies I worked for did not bat an eye. They just sold it on to another customer with lower specs at a discount. FWIW, Coors was the worst as far as rejecting 3104 and 5182 along with 3004 aluminum in 5 ton rolls. They were always wanting a discount with what they said were lower than allowable tested specs on the train load of stock. This went on for a while and then we quit accepting their orders. Seems like the others had already, Reynolds, Alcan, Alcoa had already done so. Coors screamed and threatened lawsuits. We finally relented and started selling them stock again, for 250% higher prices. They screamed but needed it if they wanted to sell beer in cans. They eventually built their own aluminum rolling mills and produced scrap for a couple years, Makes me laugh thinking back.