Any FRAM users here?
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I read the Dodge or Cummins blurb, whoever it was, nothing there for proof. As soon as they said the Fram disintegrated it was over for their believability. The filter didn't disintegrate. Proof consists of analysis of facts, like are shown in the Fram blurb. Specifics, not he said she said so it must be. I think more of Fram now because of their good response to that claim.
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
So Ron White was correct!!
Ron White would probably tell you the same thing, but with some real expressive language, if you tried to prove to him the same thing you're trying to prove here ... fail!
So Ron White was correct!!
Ron White would probably tell you the same thing, but with some real expressive language, if you tried to prove to him the same thing you're trying to prove here ... fail!
Cachiiiing! Cashoooola galore!
In my world, if someone makes a claim about something it's up to them to prove their point. You failed terrible, even after I just asked you find a couple of more factual pieces of information.
Since you are so familiar with and live this 15 year old issue, I'd think you'd have no problem coming up with a few links that convinced me - and others here too. But, since you continually side step, it just kind of cements the fact that maybe there never was any solid evidence, just as the bulletin said.
In my world, if someone makes a claim about something it's up to them to prove their point. You failed terrible, even after I just asked you find a couple of more factual pieces of information.
Since you are so familiar with and live this 15 year old issue, I'd think you'd have no problem coming up with a few links that convinced me - and others here too. But, since you continually side step, it just kind of cements the fact that maybe there never was any solid evidence, just as the bulletin said.
I have been using Fram filters in all of my vehicles for 29 years. Despite the negative comments received on various forums I have never experienced any trouble with any engine in any vehicle. I usually run the engines over 350,000 KM's before I retire them. Not sure where the justification for poor quality is coming from. You would think that in 29 years of using the products something would have shown up? Over 2,000,000 trouble free Kilometers with all of our vehicles combined in temperatures ranging from -40 degrees Celcius to +40 (Saskatchewan extremes!). I support the fram filters 100 %.
Gentlemen,
I have been using Fram oil filters in all of my vehicles for over 2,000,000 KM's for 29 years. Never have I experienced an incident of damage in any respect. I would respectfully submit that this has merit to the argument, in defense of Fram...
I have been using Fram oil filters in all of my vehicles for over 2,000,000 KM's for 29 years. Never have I experienced an incident of damage in any respect. I would respectfully submit that this has merit to the argument, in defense of Fram...
Originally Posted By: GovernmentPilot
I have been using Fram filters in all of my vehicles for 29 years. Despite the negative comments received on various forums I have never experienced any trouble with any engine in any vehicle. I usually run the engines over 350,000 KM's before I retire them. Not sure where the justification for poor quality is coming from. You would think that in 29 years of using the products something would have shown up? Over 2,000,000 trouble free Kilometers with all of our vehicles combined in temperatures ranging from -40 degrees Celcius to +40 (Saskatchewan extremes!). I support the fram filters 100 %.
Welcome to the forum!!
Hopefully you will continue to visit us on the site and add to future discussions.
I have been using Fram filters in all of my vehicles for 29 years. Despite the negative comments received on various forums I have never experienced any trouble with any engine in any vehicle. I usually run the engines over 350,000 KM's before I retire them. Not sure where the justification for poor quality is coming from. You would think that in 29 years of using the products something would have shown up? Over 2,000,000 trouble free Kilometers with all of our vehicles combined in temperatures ranging from -40 degrees Celcius to +40 (Saskatchewan extremes!). I support the fram filters 100 %.
Welcome to the forum!!
Hopefully you will continue to visit us on the site and add to future discussions.
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Cachiiiing! Cashoooola galore!
In my world, if someone makes a claim about something it's up to them to prove their point. You failed terrible, even after I just asked you find a couple of more factual pieces of information.
Since you are so familiar with and live this 15 year old issue, I'd think you'd have no problem coming up with a few links that convinced me - and others here too. But, since you continually side step, it just kind of cements the fact that maybe there never was any solid evidence, just as the bulletin said.
In my world you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
I've proved my point to every rational, unbiased person in the world with TBM's from both FRAM and Chrysler/RAM and encouraged you to read post after post in the various Cummins forums about FRAM oil filters damaging Cummins engines.
You prove, in turn, that Ron White was correct.
But you did affirm that Purolator tears have caused absolutely no damages in any engines anywhere.
My work is done here.
Cachiiiing! Cashoooola galore!
In my world, if someone makes a claim about something it's up to them to prove their point. You failed terrible, even after I just asked you find a couple of more factual pieces of information.
Since you are so familiar with and live this 15 year old issue, I'd think you'd have no problem coming up with a few links that convinced me - and others here too. But, since you continually side step, it just kind of cements the fact that maybe there never was any solid evidence, just as the bulletin said.
In my world you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.
I've proved my point to every rational, unbiased person in the world with TBM's from both FRAM and Chrysler/RAM and encouraged you to read post after post in the various Cummins forums about FRAM oil filters damaging Cummins engines.
You prove, in turn, that Ron White was correct.
But you did affirm that Purolator tears have caused absolutely no damages in any engines anywhere.
My work is done here.
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
My work is done here.
Thank goodness.
My work is done here.
Thank goodness.
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Originally Posted By: GovernmentPilot
I have been using Fram filters in all of my vehicles for 29 years. Despite the negative comments received on various forums I have never experienced any trouble with any engine in any vehicle. I usually run the engines over 350,000 KM's before I retire them. Not sure where the justification for poor quality is coming from. You would think that in 29 years of using the products something would have shown up? Over 2,000,000 trouble free Kilometers with all of our vehicles combined in temperatures ranging from -40 degrees Celcius to +40 (Saskatchewan extremes!). I support the fram filters 100 %.
Welcome to the forum!!
Hopefully you will continue to visit us on the site and add to future discussions.
Geeez ... I'm surprised you didn't get down his throat with 15 year old information about how bad Frams are.
Originally Posted By: GovernmentPilot
I have been using Fram filters in all of my vehicles for 29 years. Despite the negative comments received on various forums I have never experienced any trouble with any engine in any vehicle. I usually run the engines over 350,000 KM's before I retire them. Not sure where the justification for poor quality is coming from. You would think that in 29 years of using the products something would have shown up? Over 2,000,000 trouble free Kilometers with all of our vehicles combined in temperatures ranging from -40 degrees Celcius to +40 (Saskatchewan extremes!). I support the fram filters 100 %.
Welcome to the forum!!
Hopefully you will continue to visit us on the site and add to future discussions.
Geeez ... I'm surprised you didn't get down his throat with 15 year old information about how bad Frams are.
It is better to prove a point with fact rather than misconstrued ranting...
The forums are better left to helpful advice rather than spurring one another on through ill conceived dialogue, in my opinion.
What point is it to bicker back and forth when the historical data is obviously flawed?
With the truth there cannot be lies...
Now, let us get back to using those Frams.
The forums are better left to helpful advice rather than spurring one another on through ill conceived dialogue, in my opinion.
What point is it to bicker back and forth when the historical data is obviously flawed?
With the truth there cannot be lies...
Now, let us get back to using those Frams.
3rd round of popcorn and 2nd movie here. This link will help everyone here:
http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/oilfilter/gradesheet.htm
http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/oilfilter/gradesheet.htm
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