Any Chevy Aveo - the suicide car
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When I think of its direct competitors, Little Tikes comes to mind.
Having taken a ride in a a very low mileage Aveo just recently, I have to admit I have to agree with the OP. The 1987 Chevy Sprint was a far better car than this. It felt like the engine was going to fly apart just driving around the parking lot, the suspension and ride felt very disconnected. Overall...not at all what I expected from a car that is built within the past couple of years.
I once was going to rent a small Fiat in Rome, but Hertz UPGRADED me to an Escort.
I guess in the US that be like getting an upgrade from a Pinto to an Escort.
I guess in the US that be like getting an upgrade from a Pinto to an Escort.
Pretty much any smaller hatchback with the rear wheels stuck about as far back as possible is going to be awful in the snow without some good tires. Our Fit was about un-drivable in the snow on the OEM all-seasons. It couldn't go, couldn't stop, and fishtailed violently much above 30-35 mph thanks to having only 30% of its 2700 lbs over them. 4 snow tires transformed it into a great snow car.
The Aveo, at least the rebadged Korean-made Daewoo, is truly awful. I rode in a friend's briefly across town, and couldn't get out fast enough. That car had needed $2000 of repairs (not including timing belt) by the time it had hit 70k miles.
The current US-made Sonic is a competent subcompact that can handle pretty well in RS guise, at least from what I've read.
The Aveo, at least the rebadged Korean-made Daewoo, is truly awful. I rode in a friend's briefly across town, and couldn't get out fast enough. That car had needed $2000 of repairs (not including timing belt) by the time it had hit 70k miles.
The current US-made Sonic is a competent subcompact that can handle pretty well in RS guise, at least from what I've read.
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Pretty much any smaller hatchback with the rear wheels stuck about as far back as possible is going to be awful in the snow without some good tires.
I haven't found that to be the case. VW Rabbits were awesome in the snow. My Dad's Focus wagon (not exactly a hatchback) is pretty good too.
I always reserve whatever is the cheapest rental car and I almost always get an upgrade to something that is bigger than I want, though one time in Seattle many moons ago I got one of those three-cylinder Geos that felt like we needed pedals for more power on the hills.
Pretty much any smaller hatchback with the rear wheels stuck about as far back as possible is going to be awful in the snow without some good tires.
I haven't found that to be the case. VW Rabbits were awesome in the snow. My Dad's Focus wagon (not exactly a hatchback) is pretty good too.
I always reserve whatever is the cheapest rental car and I almost always get an upgrade to something that is bigger than I want, though one time in Seattle many moons ago I got one of those three-cylinder Geos that felt like we needed pedals for more power on the hills.
I drove a rental Aveo...not bad. Biggest gripe was only 31 miles per gallon, probably due to the automatic transmission & very deep gears. (60 was 3000RPM!) Other than that and the weird styling (its the Happy Fun Ball!), it was not a bad cheap car.
Aww c'mon! I drove a Suzuki Swift in an ice-storm.
I couldn't get back out of the ruts in the ice. It was like driving a slightly larger than average slot car.
But it wasn't that bad.
At least it would thaw the windshield.
My Beetle's driver side heat exchanger failed in a similar ice storm. Iced up the driver side windshield
I couldn't get back out of the ruts in the ice. It was like driving a slightly larger than average slot car.
But it wasn't that bad.
At least it would thaw the windshield.
My Beetle's driver side heat exchanger failed in a similar ice storm. Iced up the driver side windshield
Wost car in snow - 95 Maxima 5spd base V6 with ??? oem rubber. Let up the clutch at idle and the two front tires suun slowly and the car just slid into a ditch
The Aveo is not that bad.
A woman who used to work for me bought one, because it was the cheapest new car she could find.
Too bad she didn't seek my advice, since I could have found her something better for less $$$, but her loss.
I drove the car once, to figure out a noise she said it was making (IDR what it was) and rode in it a couple of times.
It was not that bad a car, really.
She did a sixty mile each way commute for the promotion she got when she left my supervision, and the car worked just fine for her.
The Aveo was eventually totalled in a situation where she had the choice between the ditch and guardrail to her right or the pickup coming directly at her in her lane, so she took the ditch.
She, her sister and her sister's two kids were in the car.
Everybody on board the Aveo was uninjured.
We drove many miles in a 1700 lb '76 Civic, and a number more in a pair of 2100 lb '86 Civic Wagons, and my old BMW is pretty small, although also pretty heavy, so small cars don't scare us.
A woman who used to work for me bought one, because it was the cheapest new car she could find.
Too bad she didn't seek my advice, since I could have found her something better for less $$$, but her loss.
I drove the car once, to figure out a noise she said it was making (IDR what it was) and rode in it a couple of times.
It was not that bad a car, really.
She did a sixty mile each way commute for the promotion she got when she left my supervision, and the car worked just fine for her.
The Aveo was eventually totalled in a situation where she had the choice between the ditch and guardrail to her right or the pickup coming directly at her in her lane, so she took the ditch.
She, her sister and her sister's two kids were in the car.
Everybody on board the Aveo was uninjured.
We drove many miles in a 1700 lb '76 Civic, and a number more in a pair of 2100 lb '86 Civic Wagons, and my old BMW is pretty small, although also pretty heavy, so small cars don't scare us.
I would take a cavalier long before I ever had one of these.
I remember dealing with an Aveo than needed the starter and the alternator replaced. The job cost $1500! That's insane for such a cheap and simple car!
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Pretty much any smaller hatchback with the rear wheels stuck about as far back as possible is going to be awful in the snow without some good tires.
I haven't found that to be the case. VW Rabbits were awesome in the snow. My Dad's Focus wagon (not exactly a hatchback) is pretty good too.
My Daytona did have a little more overhang on the back, but it was very good in the ice. My current Mazda was pretty competent on 18" summer tires in February 2011's ice storm.
Worst car in the ice was my '85 Mustang LX 5.0.
I haven't driven an Aveo in the ice. Doubt I ever will. The shifter and steering were just so bad in it. The whole car just felt bad. It has a vague shifter. Brings to mind the first generation of Kia Spectra. The engine was developed by Opel and used in Holden vehicles but was completely gutless. The steering? Yeah, it makes the car change directions. That's the nicest thing I can say about it.
The Aveo actually makes the previous generation Accent based Rio5 feel like a better car than it is.
It reminds me of the Aspire. A car that somehow Ford and Kia managed to eliminate all the Mazda 121 DNA from. I always thought the Aspire was appropriately named. As if it was aspirational to owning a real car some day.
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Pretty much any smaller hatchback with the rear wheels stuck about as far back as possible is going to be awful in the snow without some good tires.
I haven't found that to be the case. VW Rabbits were awesome in the snow. My Dad's Focus wagon (not exactly a hatchback) is pretty good too.
My Daytona did have a little more overhang on the back, but it was very good in the ice. My current Mazda was pretty competent on 18" summer tires in February 2011's ice storm.
Worst car in the ice was my '85 Mustang LX 5.0.
I haven't driven an Aveo in the ice. Doubt I ever will. The shifter and steering were just so bad in it. The whole car just felt bad. It has a vague shifter. Brings to mind the first generation of Kia Spectra. The engine was developed by Opel and used in Holden vehicles but was completely gutless. The steering? Yeah, it makes the car change directions. That's the nicest thing I can say about it.
The Aveo actually makes the previous generation Accent based Rio5 feel like a better car than it is.
It reminds me of the Aspire. A car that somehow Ford and Kia managed to eliminate all the Mazda 121 DNA from. I always thought the Aspire was appropriately named. As if it was aspirational to owning a real car some day.
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
I would take a Hyundai Excel over a Cavalier. I might take a Yugo.
My Scoupe wasn't bad. It didn't have that water choke Mikuni Solex carburetor that seemed to plague the Excels. The Multiport 4G15 ran real well at 100,000 miles. It too, was gutless but at least the car had a nice interior, power windows, power sunroof etc...
I would take a Hyundai Excel over a Cavalier. I might take a Yugo.
My Scoupe wasn't bad. It didn't have that water choke Mikuni Solex carburetor that seemed to plague the Excels. The Multiport 4G15 ran real well at 100,000 miles. It too, was gutless but at least the car had a nice interior, power windows, power sunroof etc...
I gotta wonder if it is better/worse than a Yugo?
An upgrade in Rome is to not drive.
I picked up a Fiesta this summer from Ciampino airport because it was close to the Autostrada. I was not going to drive in Rome proper
Originally Posted By: Donald
I once was going to rent a small Fiat in Rome, but Hertz UPGRADED me to an Escort.
I guess in the US that be like getting an upgrade from a Pinto to an Escort.
I picked up a Fiesta this summer from Ciampino airport because it was close to the Autostrada. I was not going to drive in Rome proper
Originally Posted By: Donald
I once was going to rent a small Fiat in Rome, but Hertz UPGRADED me to an Escort.
I guess in the US that be like getting an upgrade from a Pinto to an Escort.
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Originally Posted By: dishdude
I love when people get a rental that is a class below their car, and feel the need to tear it apart. I can hear the guy driving the S-Class complaining about the tin can "POS" Avalon rental he is driving.
Happily the Aveo is probably a class below anyones vehicle on here
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I don't know, had a Yaris and man I would say it runs with the Aveo. Have had both in rental form. They worked fine for what they had to do buy not my cup of tea.
Originally Posted By: dishdude
I love when people get a rental that is a class below their car, and feel the need to tear it apart. I can hear the guy driving the S-Class complaining about the tin can "POS" Avalon rental he is driving.
Happily the Aveo is probably a class below anyones vehicle on here
I don't know, had a Yaris and man I would say it runs with the Aveo. Have had both in rental form. They worked fine for what they had to do buy not my cup of tea.
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