Demarpaint: my friend with the Hyundai I posted the FRAM ULTRA filter for; his car for a brand new engine installed at dealer. It has saw nothing but Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 since and one filters and doing good so far
another Kia Optima engine bites the dust
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Demarpaint: my friend with the Hyundai I posted the FRAM ULTRA filter for; his car for a brand new engine installed at dealer. It has saw nothing but Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 since and one filters and doing good so far
Good to hear.
I got an email from my friend, and read it this morning. He remembered what I mentioned and thinks word came from Kia to run the engines at 5K rpm from 30 minutes, and if they survived change the oil and filter and deliver the vehicle. I left shortly after that episode and went to Honda.
My buddy just gave a 2007 Sportage to his daughter with 130K miles on it. The only repair other than routine maintenance was he had the harmonic balancer replaced at about 110K miles. The vehicle was otherwise dependable and still running well.
Demarpaint: my friend with the Hyundai I posted the FRAM ULTRA filter for; his car for a brand new engine installed at dealer. It has saw nothing but Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 since and one filters and doing good so far
Good to hear.
I got an email from my friend, and read it this morning. He remembered what I mentioned and thinks word came from Kia to run the engines at 5K rpm from 30 minutes, and if they survived change the oil and filter and deliver the vehicle. I left shortly after that episode and went to Honda.
My buddy just gave a 2007 Sportage to his daughter with 130K miles on it. The only repair other than routine maintenance was he had the harmonic balancer replaced at about 110K miles. The vehicle was otherwise dependable and still running well.
That makes sense.
It does appear that any Kia/Hyundai can be a very solid vehicle.
Their random failures may be related more to inconsistent quality control than to any basic designed in mechanical problems.
Still doesn't help the hapless owner faced with a busted engine at well under 100K but does give the company a direction to go for the future.
It does appear that any Kia/Hyundai can be a very solid vehicle.
Their random failures may be related more to inconsistent quality control than to any basic designed in mechanical problems.
Still doesn't help the hapless owner faced with a busted engine at well under 100K but does give the company a direction to go for the future.
There's definitely an issue with those early GDI's, but the new ones are fantastic. A friend was the engineer for Kinetic last season (2015) and the Forte Koups they ran in TCA class are bone stock motor, ecu etc and they had no issues. 9500 rpm overrevs, among other things, and no problems. The Optimas in GTS were race motors, so the fact that they had no issues with those either isn't really comparable.
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That makes sense.
It does appear that any Kia/Hyundai can be a very solid vehicle.
Their random failures may be related more to inconsistent quality control than to any basic designed in mechanical problems.
Still doesn't help the hapless owner faced with a busted engine at well under 100K but does give the company a direction to go for the future.
The older Kia's were considered throw away cars and quality was poor when I was selling them. They really stepped up their game. I used Kia to up sell Suzuki. I'd take a customer for a ride in a Sportage and use that to sell a Suzuki Vitara, Grand Vitara, or XL7. LOL Boy have things changed!
A problem with using these stories to judge quality is people often come to the internet forums to post about problems hoping to find answers. That tends to amplify things quite a bit. You don't see millions of Kia car owners joining message boards to praise them. Typically the only praise you'll see is die hard enthusiasts like us. Other happy owners go about their life not knowing about these boards until they have a problem and are searching for an answer, or seeking revenge. Early adapters tend to have problems too.
That makes sense.
It does appear that any Kia/Hyundai can be a very solid vehicle.
Their random failures may be related more to inconsistent quality control than to any basic designed in mechanical problems.
Still doesn't help the hapless owner faced with a busted engine at well under 100K but does give the company a direction to go for the future.
The older Kia's were considered throw away cars and quality was poor when I was selling them. They really stepped up their game. I used Kia to up sell Suzuki. I'd take a customer for a ride in a Sportage and use that to sell a Suzuki Vitara, Grand Vitara, or XL7. LOL Boy have things changed!
A problem with using these stories to judge quality is people often come to the internet forums to post about problems hoping to find answers. That tends to amplify things quite a bit. You don't see millions of Kia car owners joining message boards to praise them. Typically the only praise you'll see is die hard enthusiasts like us. Other happy owners go about their life not knowing about these boards until they have a problem and are searching for an answer, or seeking revenge. Early adapters tend to have problems too.
I'm sitting at 56K miles on my '12 Optima SX (2.0L turbo) with many bolt-on mods (no ECU tune yet). I'm pushing 300+HP@crank. The car is my DD and runs great. Bought new and treated her right. My used oil analysis are good. I've been very impressed with the overall quality of the car along with the engineering put into it. Car has always been run on Mobil 1 0W-40 oil and either the OEM filter (Mann) or the Purolator PureOne. OCI of 4K miles.
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