Another F-18 lost in the Red Sea…

[Saturnguy]

Another FA-18 lost off the Truman…

https://www.wavy.com/news/military/navy/another-fighter-jet-from-uss-truman-crashes-into-sea/

Pilots are OK, landing accident…

 

[Jetronic]

Reportedly, the Truman had to manoeuvre again to avoid a missile. So in that case not truly an accident.

 

[burbguy82]

hmmmm, in the Red Sea huh?

 

[Jetronic]

hmmmm, in the Red Sea huh?

I wouldn't know where truman would be, in range of Yemen which could be red sea I guess.

 

[dnewton3]

Reportedly, the Truman had to manoeuvre again to avoid a missile. So in that case not truly an accident.

I find that hard to believe.
A fighter jet is very nimble; not so, an aircraft carrier.

 

[Saturnguy]

Looks like a bolter, they missed the wires, and did not have enough speed to stay airborne…

Watch this from a few years ago, all the way to the end…

 

[Astro14]

Looks like a bolter, they missed the wires, and did not have enough speed to stay airborne…

Watch this from a few years ago, all the way to the end…

That’s not a bolter.

That’s a cross deck pendant failure.

A bolter is when you miss the wires, or, the hook itself skips, which is possible, depending on the nature of the landing.

What you saw on that video, was a normal landing, followed by a failure of the wire itself, which slowed the airplane considerably before it broke, leaving the airplane in a position where it was too fast to stop on the flight deck, but luckily, because the E2 doesn’t have ejection seats, it was still going fast enough that they were able to keep it in the air.

 

[Astro14]

Reportedly, the Truman had to manoeuvre again to avoid a missile. So in that case not truly an accident.

I’m not seeing that report. This looks like a regular landing accident from what I’ve heard. They’re not giving a precise cause (hook skip, bolter, wire failure).

https://news.usni.org/2025/05/06/su...ailed-landing-on-uss-harry-s-truman-crew-safe

 

[loneryder]

Looks like a bolter, they missed the wires, and did not have enough speed to stay airborne…

Watch this from a few years ago, all the way to the end…

I read the catch wires failed. They should recall that carrier until they can get their crap together.

 

[Astro14]

I read the catch wires failed. They should recall that carrier until they can get their crap together.

“Catch wires”, eh?

Did you mean the arresting gear purchase cable?

Or the cross deck pendant?

How, exactly did they fail? Which one was it that failed?

Was it a defect in manufacturing, in the installation, or in the operation?

Since you don’t actually know what the equipment on board a carrier is called, or how any of it works, and you are unable to answer any of the questions above, I am really not sure you’re in a position to judge whether or not the 5,000+ personnel assigned, or the materiel condition of the ship, are combat capable.

Let’s wait until the investigation determines the actual cause before making a decision on recalling the carrier.

From a strategic perspective, to recall the carrier from her deployment right now would impact the lives of tens of thousands of sailors, who would be surged forward to make up the early recall of the strike group, as well as leave that part of the world uncovered by the United States Navy.

Like crossing the streams, that would be bad.

 

[RooflessVW]

“Catch wires”, eh?

Did you mean the arresting gear purchase cable?

Or the cross deck pendant?

How, exactly did they fail?

Was it a defect in manufacturing, in the installation, or in the operation?

Since you don’t actually know what the equipment on board a carrier is called, or how any of it works, and you are unable to answer any of the questions above, I am really not sure you’re in a position to judge whether or not the 5,000+ personnel assigned, or the materiel condition of the ship, are combat capable.

Let’s wait until the investigation determines the actual cost before making a decision on recalling the carrier.

From a strategic perspective, to recall the carrier from her deployment right now would impact the lives of tens of thousands of sailors, who would be surged forward to make up the early recall of the strike group, as well as leave that part of the world uncovered by the United States Navy.

Like crossing the streams, that would be bad.

Whenever certain topics come up on BiTOG I wish we had qualification badges.

 

[Jetronic]

I’m not seeing that report. This looks like a regular landing accident from what I’ve heard. They’re not giving a precise cause (hook skip, bolter, wire failure).

https://news.usni.org/2025/05/06/su...ailed-landing-on-uss-harry-s-truman-crew-safe

We'll know more in a few days I suppose.

 

[loneryder]

“Catch wires”, eh?

Did you mean the arresting gear purchase cable?

Or the cross deck pendant?

How, exactly did they fail? Which one was it that failed?

Was it a defect in manufacturing, in the installation, or in the operation?

Since you don’t actually know what the equipment on board a carrier is called, or how any of it works, and you are unable to answer any of the questions above, I am really not sure you’re in a position to judge whether or not the 5,000+ personnel assigned, or the materiel condition of the ship, are combat capable.

Let’s wait until the investigation determines the actual cause before making a decision on recalling the carrier.

From a strategic perspective, to recall the carrier from her deployment right now would impact the lives of tens of thousands of sailors, who would be surged forward to make up the early recall of the strike group, as well as leave that part of the world uncovered by the United States Navy.

Like crossing the streams, that would be bad.

I was never in the navy therefore I don't know the proper terminology. I read a news report that whatever catches the plane failed. Irritable today, eh? Didn't know you were a Canadian.

 

[loneryder]

Whenever certain topics come up on BiTOG I wish we had qualification badges.

I guess only experts are allowed on this site lately.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

I was never in the navy therefore I don't know the proper terminology. I read a news report that whatever catches the plane failed. Irritable today, eh? Didn't know you were a Canadian.

A better response would have been, “I was never in the Navy. Thank you for your service, and for the lesson on the proper terminology that the crappy news source I read didn’t take the time to give. I’ve learned something today.”

 

[burbguy82]

I guess only experts are allowed on this site lately.

We all have opinions, and sometimes those opinions yield a rough response by those who can see the flaw in the opinion, especially when "bad" advice is given, per the opinion.

We are all learning.

 

[RooflessVW]

I guess only experts are allowed on this site lately.

It'd be better if the non-experts sat back and listened sometimes.

You'll notice I haven't chimed in with my opinion on the incident here. Suggesting the Navy recall a carrier and "get their crap together" is laughable from someone with little to no expertise.

 

[alcyon]

“Catch wires”, eh?

Did you mean the arresting gear purchase cable?

Or the cross deck pendant?

How, exactly did they fail? Which one was it that failed?

Was it a defect in manufacturing, in the installation, or in the operation?

Since you don’t actually know what the equipment on board a carrier is called, or how any of it works, and you are unable to answer any of the questions above, I am really not sure you’re in a position to judge whether or not the 5,000+ personnel assigned, or the materiel condition of the ship, are combat capable.

Let’s wait until the investigation determines the actual cause before making a decision on recalling the carrier.

From a strategic perspective, to recall the carrier from her deployment right now would impact the lives of tens of thousands of sailors, who would be surged forward to make up the early recall of the strike group, as well as leave that part of the world uncovered by the United States Navy.

Like crossing the streams, that would be bad.

I understood that last reference, Harold Ramis....

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

I understood that last reference, Harold Ramis....

Don’t gobusting his joke wide open!

 

[loneryder]

It'd be better if the non-experts sat back and listened sometimes.

You'll notice I haven't chimed in with my opinion on the incident here. Suggesting the Navy recall a carrier and "get their crap together" is laughable from someone with little to no expertise.

You are right. Let's just keep sending them new fighter jets.