AMSOIL quality as of April 2016
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Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
Overpriced and overrated
My technical brain agrees.
But my business brain admires them (much like Starbux) for being able to sell the same product for twice the price others do, via marketing prowess.
Overpriced and overrated
My technical brain agrees.
But my business brain admires them (much like Starbux) for being able to sell the same product for twice the price others do, via marketing prowess.
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/why-the-...charged-engines
Once again Amsoil is behind the times and competition. The Honda HTO-06 test is much better at predicting deposits. TEOST doesn't test used oil. What a joke.
Also Amsoil is using 3,700 ppm of Ca which is bad for DI and LSPI.
Once again Amsoil is behind the times and competition. The Honda HTO-06 test is much better at predicting deposits. TEOST doesn't test used oil. What a joke.
Also Amsoil is using 3,700 ppm of Ca which is bad for DI and LSPI.
Originally Posted By: buster
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/why-the-...charged-engines
Once again Amsoil is behind the times and competition. The Honda HTO-06 test is much better at predicting deposits. TEOST doesn't test used oil. What a joke.
Also Amsoil is using 3,700 ppm of Ca which is bad for DI and LSPI.
A joke in what way? Standard test? 3rd Party lab? So your proof is posting Mobil 1 marketing material? VERY SAD.
Depends on what form of Ca. If highly volatile form, then maybe.
If you don't like Amsoil, don't use it. Because Amsoil does OK in a test, you get all angry. That just seems weird - why does it bug you so much?
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/why-the-...charged-engines
Once again Amsoil is behind the times and competition. The Honda HTO-06 test is much better at predicting deposits. TEOST doesn't test used oil. What a joke.
Also Amsoil is using 3,700 ppm of Ca which is bad for DI and LSPI.
A joke in what way? Standard test? 3rd Party lab? So your proof is posting Mobil 1 marketing material? VERY SAD.
Depends on what form of Ca. If highly volatile form, then maybe.
If you don't like Amsoil, don't use it. Because Amsoil does OK in a test, you get all angry. That just seems weird - why does it bug you so much?
LOL not angry but I call it as I see it and I don't sell oil I just go with what I think is best based on all available information. Amsoil likes to call out competitors but unfortunately they use lousy marketing and tests that are not that relevant IMO. I don't lose sleep over this lol but if I think they are wrong I will say so. If Mobil was wrong i would call them out too. It is what it is. Amsoil is clearly just boosted yesterday's oil.
I have followed them since 2002.
I have followed them since 2002.
Does the HTHS of the Amsoil 5w-30 meet requirements for turbo chargers?
I think Amsoil makes great products, but I'm having a hard time believing M1 EP did this much worse on this test.
If they did...EOM has some explaining to do.
Or, is this a repeat of the Valvoline test...Valvoline caught them failing a major test, they didn't refute it at all; but all of a sudden their oil got a LOT better...they were 'coasting', and someone called them out.
Same thing, again?
If they did...EOM has some explaining to do.
Or, is this a repeat of the Valvoline test...Valvoline caught them failing a major test, they didn't refute it at all; but all of a sudden their oil got a LOT better...they were 'coasting', and someone called them out.
Same thing, again?
Originally Posted By: TwoWheelRider
Does the HTHS of the Amsoil 5w-30 meet requirements for turbo chargers?
That's an extremely loaded question. If the turbocharged engine calls for an ILSAC 5w-30 or lighter, I'm sure it meets the HTHS requirements. If it's calling for an A3/B4 type 5w-30, or a heavier grade altogether, I'd be cautious.
Does the HTHS of the Amsoil 5w-30 meet requirements for turbo chargers?
That's an extremely loaded question. If the turbocharged engine calls for an ILSAC 5w-30 or lighter, I'm sure it meets the HTHS requirements. If it's calling for an A3/B4 type 5w-30, or a heavier grade altogether, I'd be cautious.
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Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: TwoWheelRider
Does the HTHS of the Amsoil 5w-30 meet requirements for turbo chargers?
That's an extremely loaded question. If the turbocharged engine calls for an ILSAC 5w-30 or lighter, I'm sure it meets the HTHS requirements. If it's calling for an A3/B4 type 5w-30, or a heavier grade altogether, I'd be cautious.
+1
Even BMW specs a 0W-20 for some turbos. 2.6 or 2.7 HTHS.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=60882
Originally Posted By: TwoWheelRider
Does the HTHS of the Amsoil 5w-30 meet requirements for turbo chargers?
That's an extremely loaded question. If the turbocharged engine calls for an ILSAC 5w-30 or lighter, I'm sure it meets the HTHS requirements. If it's calling for an A3/B4 type 5w-30, or a heavier grade altogether, I'd be cautious.
+1
Even BMW specs a 0W-20 for some turbos. 2.6 or 2.7 HTHS.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=60882
wemay
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Isn't this thread based on AMSOIL marketing material?
Originally Posted By: addyguy
I think Amsoil makes great products, but I'm having a hard time believing M1 EP did this much worse on this test.
If they did...EOM has some explaining to do.
Or, is this a repeat of the Valvoline test...Valvoline caught them failing a major test, they didn't refute it at all; but all of a sudden their oil got a LOT better...they were 'coasting', and someone called them out.
Same thing, again?
Somehow I have a really hard time caring about this. Should I?
I think Amsoil makes great products, but I'm having a hard time believing M1 EP did this much worse on this test.
If they did...EOM has some explaining to do.
Or, is this a repeat of the Valvoline test...Valvoline caught them failing a major test, they didn't refute it at all; but all of a sudden their oil got a LOT better...they were 'coasting', and someone called them out.
Same thing, again?
Somehow I have a really hard time caring about this. Should I?
Not really unless you want to drink the cool-aid
Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: TwoWheelRider
Does the HTHS of the Amsoil 5w-30 meet requirements for turbo chargers?
That's an extremely loaded question. If the turbocharged engine calls for an ILSAC 5w-30 or lighter, I'm sure it meets the HTHS requirements. If it's calling for an A3/B4 type 5w-30, or a heavier grade altogether, I'd be cautious.
+1
Even BMW specs a 0W-20 for some turbos. 2.6 or 2.7 HTHS.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=60882
IMO, BMW are way overrated on many levels.
I don't understand what BMW have done to achieve their status in the market other than utilize some clever marketing strategies that would put Amsoil to shame in some regards.
Guaranteed buy back is one of the most clever moves I've ever seen from a car manufacturer and BMW have gone from strength to strength on this strategy.
Also the roll out of the "from the cradle to the grave" strategy which is an excellent fit with the guaranteed buy back.
It's a pity Amsoil couldn't do the same thing with their used oil.
I find it amusing that BMW have been elevated to a high status in the market where Amsoil are criticised and demeaned for no good reason.
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: TwoWheelRider
Does the HTHS of the Amsoil 5w-30 meet requirements for turbo chargers?
That's an extremely loaded question. If the turbocharged engine calls for an ILSAC 5w-30 or lighter, I'm sure it meets the HTHS requirements. If it's calling for an A3/B4 type 5w-30, or a heavier grade altogether, I'd be cautious.
+1
Even BMW specs a 0W-20 for some turbos. 2.6 or 2.7 HTHS.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=60882
IMO, BMW are way overrated on many levels.
I don't understand what BMW have done to achieve their status in the market other than utilize some clever marketing strategies that would put Amsoil to shame in some regards.
Guaranteed buy back is one of the most clever moves I've ever seen from a car manufacturer and BMW have gone from strength to strength on this strategy.
Also the roll out of the "from the cradle to the grave" strategy which is an excellent fit with the guaranteed buy back.
It's a pity Amsoil couldn't do the same thing with their used oil.
I find it amusing that BMW have been elevated to a high status in the market where Amsoil are criticised and demeaned for no good reason.
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Originally Posted By: Ducman
I find it amusing that BMW have been elevated to a high status in the market where Amsoil are criticised and demeaned for no good reason.
You mean other than the fact that they sell overpriced products (mainly due to their marketing philosophy) that are substantially similar to to mainstream products readily available in the open market for less?
It didn't use to be that way but I have a hard time seeing the value these days.
I find it amusing that BMW have been elevated to a high status in the market where Amsoil are criticised and demeaned for no good reason.
You mean other than the fact that they sell overpriced products (mainly due to their marketing philosophy) that are substantially similar to to mainstream products readily available in the open market for less?
It didn't use to be that way but I have a hard time seeing the value these days.
It's a cult thing ... If you want to belong to the special group, you join and it becomes a belief (Oil, Cars, Life Philosophy, whatever...). Once you are in, you tend to want to defend your position, so you get a bit thin skinned about criticism and you find justifications among your "brothers & sisters" based on testimonials ...
BMW has won many races, so has Porsche, so has Ferrari. They make a name, they create a mystique, they get supporters for their products. I dunno if AmsOil has won many races, but the same strategy seems to apply ...
BMW has won many races, so has Porsche, so has Ferrari. They make a name, they create a mystique, they get supporters for their products. I dunno if AmsOil has won many races, but the same strategy seems to apply ...
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Ducman
I find it amusing that BMW have been elevated to a high status in the market where Amsoil are criticised and demeaned for no good reason.
You mean other than the fact that they sell overpriced products (mainly due to their marketing philosophy) that are substantially similar to to mainstream products readily available in the open market for less?
It didn't use to be that way but I have a hard time seeing the value these days.
I think i'm in the same boat as yourself.
I do use Amsoil products and have had great results in the past, but I do not use them exclusively as it's dependant upon the application.
The distributor here in OZ used to look after me on prices which made the Amsoil stuff very competitive against another well known boutique brand, but they got a little hungry a while ago which motivates me to look around more than I used to.
There are some things they do very well to the exclusion of other brands available here, but then again other brands do things that Amsoil do not.
Originally Posted By: Ducman
I find it amusing that BMW have been elevated to a high status in the market where Amsoil are criticised and demeaned for no good reason.
You mean other than the fact that they sell overpriced products (mainly due to their marketing philosophy) that are substantially similar to to mainstream products readily available in the open market for less?
It didn't use to be that way but I have a hard time seeing the value these days.
I think i'm in the same boat as yourself.
I do use Amsoil products and have had great results in the past, but I do not use them exclusively as it's dependant upon the application.
The distributor here in OZ used to look after me on prices which made the Amsoil stuff very competitive against another well known boutique brand, but they got a little hungry a while ago which motivates me to look around more than I used to.
There are some things they do very well to the exclusion of other brands available here, but then again other brands do things that Amsoil do not.
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